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03:31:19, 14 January 2018 review of submission by Mrwillwong

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Mrwillwong (talk) 03:31, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Mrwillwong:, did you have a question? Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 17:02, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lee...thanks for getting back to me. Just submitted my first article but it was declined. I will need your help helping it be Wiki-ready. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrwillwong (talk • contribs) 17:18, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again, @Mrwillwong:, first, I'd like you to read the Conflict of interests policy on Wikipedia, regarding creating and editing articles you have a personal investment in. Your username is the same as what you are attempting to create, so this leads me to believe you are the subject, or you work closely with Will Wong. I have left a message on your talk page; asking you to change your username to comply with this.
As for the article, the response was that because the references were unreadable, the draft couldn't possibly be accepted. You don't need to include references inside[] tags, as they do that as standard. I have reverted these on your behalf. I would also recommend looking how to use template:cite web, as this allows people to see where a reference is from, as well as other information is a lot easier. I have done one so you can check.
However, even with formatting, the references given do not let the subject pass WP:GNG, which means that you need reliable secondary, independent sources to talk about Mr Will Wong, and in depth, which means he is an important topic that should be covered on Wikipedia. Not everything should, such as WP:NOT. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:38, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 05:30:16, 14 January 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Kalyani Madhale

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Hello Sir/ Madam, I am trying to create a Wikipedia page for my college. I have followed some colleges Wikipedia pages like College of Engineering, Pune. I have put nearly same kind of content on our Wikipedia page. also, i have tried to write in the neutral point of view. still, the page has been declined. can you tell which lines do not come from the neutral point of view. also which lines come under promotion. I have made changes many times but I do not understand these two things. Kindly help with suggestions.

Kalyani Madhale (talk) 05:30, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kalyani Madhale. When modeling a new article on an existing one, chose one of Wikipedia's best. Helpful suggestions regarding what to include and how to organize it can be found in Wikipedia:College and university article advice. Arguably the most important section is "History", which is entirely missing from the draft. I also find Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools/Article guidelines useful, particularly the sections on what to include and what not to include. It doesn't apply directly to tertiary educational institutions, but one can draw analogies, and it's an important reminder that just because something is verifiably true doesn't mean it belongs in an encyclopedia.
Finally, make sure the citations actually support the content where cited. The Biochemical Medicine paper from 1975, for example, can't possibly prove where RIT ranked in a 2017 survey by Times Engineering (also, is Times Engineering a major ranking by a national/international publication?) --Worldbruce (talk) 05:39, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

07:34:59, 14 January 2018 review of submission by P.dolin

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I'd like some help referencing a page I tried to create: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Decline_(punk_band)

Is it possible someone would be able to give examples of what I need to change?

ThanksP.dolin (talk) 07:34, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

P.dolin (talk) 07:34, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi P.dolin. I've commented at length on the draft. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:07, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

16:10:49, 14 January 2018 review of submission by Saisri Pavithraa

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Saisri Pavithraa (talk) 16:10, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

16:10:49, 14 January 2018 review of submission by Saisri Pavithraa

How many more citations should I add? I've added almost whatever is acceptable in wiki

Hi Saisri Pavithraa. A larger number of citations isn't likely to help. The seven citations to mainstream news sources (The New Indian Express, The News Minute, and The Hindu) are reliable, but are not significant coverage. They mention Kumar only briefly and repeat the most basic of facts about him.
The draft makes a very weak claim of notability - a business executive, head of a foundation, and speaker. This sounds unremarkable. To riff on what another speaker said, the country produces a larger crop of these than rice. Is this person so worthy of note that they belong in an encyclopedia with the likes of Ratan Tata, R. K. Narayan, and Kareena Kapoor? If you can find in-depth, arms-length, reliable sources that demonstrate that he does, you'll also need to address the tone and content of the draft, which seem aimed to praise and promote him. --Worldbruce (talk) 02:33, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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