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04:25:17, 9 September 2014 review of submission by Emerdog

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Emerdog (talk) 04:25, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]


I just finished my first Wikipedia article, USS PC-598, drafted on my user sandbox page. Although I am a registered user, I followed the directions on the page and submitted it for review my clicking the link on the page, rather than activating it myself. A reviewer was nice enough to activate the article for me today. I have two questions:

1 - I seem to have lost the use of my sandbox. If I click the Sandbox tab on my user page I am redirected to the article, USS PC-598. I can no longer access my sandbox (User:Emerdog/sandbox.) I would like my sandbox back but cannot figure how to correct this problem.

2 - The article was rated Start-Class, with which I am okay. However, the main fault for that category of the rubric is a lack of reliable references. The bulk of the information is taken from original source documents - the Administrative Diaries, Operational Remarks, Log Books and War Diaries for the ship from 1943, 1944 and 1945. I have copies of all of these documents and have shown them as Sources on the page. For information not taken from these source documents, I have 40 additional footnotes. Should I be footnoting each sentence or each paragraph of the article to specific days from the Logs or Diaries, such as this?[1]

Please advise.

Thank you for your help.

@Emerdog: I have removed the redirect from your sandbox. Whenever you encounter a redirect, the small title of the original page is found under the title of the article. That way you can return to the redirected page and edit it as needed.
This help desk is for drafts. If you want a reassessment of your article, you can ask at WikiProject Military History. Chris Troutman (talk) 05:36, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Chris,

Thank you very much for your help.

Emerdog (talk) 05:39, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  1. ^ PC-598 War Diary, 1 April 1945

Emerdog (talk) 04:25, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

04:36:28, 9 September 2014 review of submission by John.A.McKee

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Hi again. WRT my earlier question on September 8 I have some follow-up questions. Please excuse my ignorance on this but it's the first article I've attempted to put on Wikipedia and I'm still finding my way.

First, I don't understand how I've infringed copyright by linking to http://www.nsw.ipaa.org.au/events/2012/ipaa-regional-conference-2012. It's a public website and there are plenty of other public websites to which Wikipedia links, so I'm at a loss to understand the problem. Can you explain this for me?

Second, I'm not exactly doing paid editing. A customer of mine wants a Wikepedia page set up to provide information about him and technically he's not able to do it. He has created the content and employed me to simply input that content for him. Is that in contravention of the rules?

Finally, is there no way I can get back the content I already entered? I didn't realise you guys would erase it if the draft was rejected so I don't have a backup.

Thanks

John.A.McKee (talk) 04:36, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@John.A.McKee: Timtrent already replied to you that you had copied content wholesale, not simply included the URL. We will not restore the deleted copyright violation and this point isn't worth arguing over. If you refer to someone as "the client" you likely are not an objective contributor; we're still willing to allow you to contribute through this project, anyway. Be advised that as the editor involved, it is your responsibility to ensure that content meets our standards. You can't simply paste in a document someone else gave you.
I recommend you read our guidance on writing your first article. Our "referencing for beginners" is also helpful. Chris Troutman (talk) 05:24, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@John.A.McKee: If your customer has created the content I do not understand why you do not have it. If your customer has copied a site wholesale, then, really, that is your customer's tough luck. They should know better. Show them this correspondence. If all they have done is passed you the content because you are capable of making the input they can pass it again and you can see where the copyright infringement is. Nothing is ever deleted for linking to a site. It is deleted on sight if it infringes that site's copyright. To undelete it, even briefly, is a further copyright infringement. Ask the deleting admin with pleasure. You will find their details at the deleted draft, and they may have a different view.
Copyright infringement is not just a lack of politeness, it is theft of intellectual property. BY deleting this draft we have not only protected the owner, but protected you. Fiddle Faddle 06:17, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

04:42:12, 9 September 2014 request for review by BrionneNaish

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Hi, I've named my draft 'Supercross' but there is already a page by that name for the Supercross motor sport. But my page is about a certain analytical software. I wanted to know if I can have help to change the name of my page the 'Supercross software' BrionneNaish (talk) 04:42, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

BrionneNaish (talk) 04:42, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Brionne. Don't worry, that issue will be resolved by the reviewer if the draft is accepted. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 08:26, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

05:44:50, 9 September 2014 review of submission by Helen7274

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Hello - I submitted a draft article on Terrance Plowright on 29 July. I was told that if submission is accepted, the page will be moved into the article space; my question is will I be notified if it has been accepted? I understand that there is a backlog, but was wondering whether any progress had been made in reviewing my article? kind regards - helen Helen7274 (talk) 05:44, 9 September 2014 (UTC) Helen7274 (talk) 05:44, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Helen. Yes, that draft is still awaiting review. You will be notified on your talk page User talk:Helen7274 when it is either accepted or declined. If it is declined you will normally have the opportunity to revise it further then resubmit it. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 08:24, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Arthur goes shopping - I look forward to hearing from you. oh, and another question: am I able to continue editing/adding etc while it's under review? helenHelen7274 (talk) 03:59, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

10:07:35, 9 September 2014 review of submission by Ravi Paliya

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My article "Hindu Purohit Sangh" is not a copy paste material. Ravi Paliya (talk) 10:07, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Ravi Paliya: Sure it is. Earwig's tool tells me that there's a 94% chance you copied the information word-for-word from veda.wikidot.com, which itself was probably translated from hindupurohitsangh.in. If this content belongs to your institution, you will need to donate that content to Wikipedia. However, it appears that you're trying to advertise and that's not permitted. Your draft has no independent reliable sources to indicate Hindu Purohit Sangh is notable. Just because it's registered with the Indian government doesn't make it notable. Chris Troutman (talk) 16:53, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

10:45:51, 9 September 2014 review of submission by The Editor is Here

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Hello, I am fully aware that thousands of people are waiting for their articles to be reviewed; however, I have the feeling no one has reviewed my article yet (almost a month now), because they are not entirely familiar with the subject matter (German financial startups, FinTech, etc.). If someone here could refer this article to an editor who feels competent enough to review it, it would be very much appreciated. Thank you! The Editor is Here (talk) 10:45, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

11:28:48, 9 September 2014 review of submission by Severine8000

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Dear Wikipedia. We have created an article about Strateo (username Severine8000), we have made some changes to it as it got disapproved once, and would like to know the status of its review.

Many thanks

Severine8000 Severine8000 (talk) 11:28, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Now that you have changed the content of the submission, please click the blue Resubmit button on that page to resubmit it for another review. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 17:43, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

11:58:33, 9 September 2014 review of submission by Golderaeck

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Hi, I've created the article about Rone (musician). I realised that an Australian street artist shares the same alias, meaning that the Australian Rone's page comes immediately when one searches for "Rone" in Wikipedia. At the top of Rone's page I read : This article is about Rone the street artist. For the gutter downpipe, see Downspout.

Is there a way to add : For the French electronic music producer and artist see Rone (musician) ??

Please help me. Thanks for the good work! regards, Didier

Golderaeck (talk) 11:58, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've done something like that now by changing the hatnote at the top to the following markup:
{{about|the street artist|the gutter downpipe|Downspout|the musician|Rone (musician)}}
Arthur goes shopping (talk) 17:38, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

18:14:26, 9 September 2014 review of draft by Jschamberg

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Is it possible to access and edit "named references"? Jschamberg (talk) 18:14, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Are you able to ask your question either differently, or with more precision? The broad answer is 'yes', but we'd like to give you a better answer than that. Fiddle Faddle 19:52, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 20:29:27, 9 September 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by Roroone

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I don't know why my submission was rejected.


Roroone (talk) 20:29, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Roroone: It reads like a resume, not an encyclopedic article. You have no in-line citations let alone cited sources. You make no claim to notability. Chris Troutman (talk) 20:40, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

22:25:43, 9 September 2014 review of draft by Emc25

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Wondering if someone can take a look at the draft and provide any suggestions on how to improve it? Is there anything else I should do before requesting publication?

Thank you!

Emc25 (talk) 22:25, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Among others" and "among many others" and similar phrasing are both unnecessary, and also promotional phrasing. Remove anything like that. You may wish to improve the formatting of your references. Take a look at some Wikipedia:Good Articles and see how proper references are formatted... not just the hyperlinked name of the source article.
You have a paragraph "...she attended the indigenous peoples global summit ... The summit enabled indigenous peoples from all regions of the globe to exchange their knowledge and experience in adapting to the impacts of climate change and to develop key messages and recommendations to assist Indigenous Peoples in their global negotiations on climate change". This paragraph is entirely unsourced, horribly repetitive, promotional, and really adds nothing to encyclopedic knowledge about Tryon. So for example I attended Wikimania 2014 (and helped to run it, in a small way), but that fact is really not something that needs to be noted in an encyclopedia, nor would it contribute to my being notable enough for a Wikipedia article (which I am not).
Focusing on secondary, independent sources, and removing some material not supported by such sources, may also help to make the case for Tryon's notability clearer. As a tour guide, lecturer, conference attendee and non-profit founder, her notability is not totally clear to me. It could go either way. Good luck! Arthur goes shopping (talk) 23:19, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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