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I am looking for advice from editors on how to improve my AfC page Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/List of Ben & Jerry's flavors so it has the greatest chance of being connected to the main article on Ben & Jerry's. Could you let me know if I'm on the right track, thank you! This is my first AfC submission.


Benandjerrysflavors (talk) 02:32, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  Warning I've been watching this article for quite a while, and there are two important points I feel I must present.

  • The first is your username. Your username and this article would create a conflict of interest (see WP:CONFLICT. Although I assume you are not representing Ben and Jerry's in an official capacity, I am inclined to agree, and I think others are too, that your username and this article do not suit each other.
  • The second issue is the relevance to the article itself. As I just argued with another topic elsewhere on Wikipedia, This list is essentially a directory of flavors that Ben and Jerry's released, and judging by all the sources (which all come from the company's own website, which is self-published marterial (see WP:VRS), the fact remains is that all this information can be found on their website, and is not required material for an encyclopedia (see WP:NOTDIR).

I know you've worked hard on this, but I feel that the forces at hand may reject this list on the premise of not being relevant to the Main article (which is unchallenged). ®amos likes messages! 20:59, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Benandjerrysflavors. The advice about changing your username from ®amos is wise, and I suggest you do so. You can request a name change at Wikipedia:Changing username. Once your username has been changed, your previous contributions will be listed under the new name in page histories, diffs, logs, and user contributions. Signatures on discussion pages will continue to use the old name, but clicking on the links in the old signature will take people to your new name.
Now about your list, have you seen List of Ben & Jerry's ice creams? Since your list duplicates the existing topic (if not the exact contents), it won't be moved to a separate article. Instead, you could use the contents of your draft to augment or even replace the current table in that article. The current table has significant problems, in my view (see also the comments at Talk:List of Ben & Jerry's ice creams), and I think your version would be an improvement. You could propose your changes and link to your draft at that talk page to get other editors' views. Since that page has relatively few people watching it, I'd also suggest notifying your talk page proposal to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Food and drink to get potentially more input from experienced editors in the area. If no one seems to object after a week or so, I'd go ahead and make the changes. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:30, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How can i make this page as wiki page and searchable page for around the world — Preceding unsigned comment added by Navurinv (talkcontribs) 05:21, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Navurinv - first you gather your sources then you read the WP:Your first article guide. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:46, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, After 3 revisions to remove copyrights and promotional language, my copy still appears to be considered as advertisement. We've taken a look at other companies and tried to reproduce their pattern so that our submission would be accepted since theirs was. we followed Hillcrest labs article structure and worked on an appropriate language you can see on their page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillcrest_Labs The QUALCOMM page is notified to appear as an advertisement but is still published https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillcrest_Labs

I am wondering what I should specifically do to succeed the revisions for our article.

Please let me know,

Thank you, Eva Pagneux Movea (talk) 15:23, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To editor Movea: Before I explain the concerns about your submission, I strongly advise you to request a change in username. User accounts should only represent individuals, so usernames that represent organizations are not allowed. (Usernames can, however, contain names of organizations, so something like, Eva Pagneux at Movea would be acceptable.)
Qualcomm is not a good example to cite, because it was not created through the articles for creation process. AfC is designed to catch this sort of problem before an article goes "live," to avoid those issue tags.
The main difference between the article on Hillcrest Labs and your submission is that the Hillcrest Labs article cites independent, reliable sources (mostly newspapers and magazines) to demonstrate notability. Language such as "greatest tech designs ever" in the Hillcrest article is also cited to a source, whereas similar language such as "global leader" in the Movea submission is not. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 03:08, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Filippo_Drago

Dear all, this article as been rejected. The main reason of the rejection, purchased by reviewers, is the lack of independent secondary sources. However, those sources come from independent organizations, where the Curriculm vitae of prof. Drago has been certified:

  • "SIF - Edicola Virtuale". Edicola.sifweb.org. Retrieved 2013-12-04.
  • "Curriculum Vitae". http://www.ecnp.eu/. Retrieved 2013-02-01.
  • "Commissioni consultive e tecnico scientifiche | AIFA Agenzia Italiana del Farmaco". Agenziafarmaco.gov.it. Retrieved 2013-12-04.
  • "Aifa. Definiti i componenti regionali della Cts e del Cpr - Quotidiano Sanità". Quotidianosanita.it. 2013-05-22. Retrieved 2013-12-04.
  • {{cite webhttp://www.ecnp.eu/~/media/Files/ecnp/Projects%20and%20initiatives/Certificate/CV%20Fellow%20members/CV%20Drago.pdf |title=Curriculum Vitae |publisher=http://www.ecnp.eu/ |date= |accessdate=2013-02-01}} USA (2013-08-12).
  • "Filippo Drago - PubMed - NCBI". Ncbi.nlm.nih.gov. Retrieved 2013-12-04.
  • "IT-ARVO". http://www.arvo.org/. Retrieved 2013-02-01.

Furthermore, I would highlight that the wikipedia page of another european pharmacologist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulrich_Förstermann is published, but I don't get how the references of this page are better than the proposed article of Filippo Drago. Please look at the references of Ulrich Förstermann page:


Please explain me why those references are better than the Articles_for_creation/Filippo_Drago.

Filippo Drago is a european pharmacologist, president of the Federation of European Pharmacological Societies, he is also notable over the europe and worldwide, see http://www.arvo.org/affiliates/#it-arvo and his important publications http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Filippo+Drago.

All references in the article for creation Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Filippo_Drago are reliable and independent.

I don't understand the difference between the pharmacologist Ulrick Förstermann and Filippo Drago Filippo Drago deserves to have a wikipedia page for his important role in the actual scenario of european pharmacology and for his scientific contributions.

He has recently have made an audition with the european commission for the access of poor european nations to innovative drugs: look to the last president's letter at http://www.ephar.org/home.html

The reasons of rejection of the article of Filippo Drago are unacceptable, there must be a possible conflict of interest of reviewers or a their lack of knowledge of the field of pharmacology.

Pchemc (talk) 18:32, 1 May 2014 (UTC)pchemc[reply]

To editor Pchemc: Independent sources are sources that are produced by someone not associated with the subject. Because Drago's curriculum vitae is written by Drago himself, it is not independent, even if it is published or certified by someone else. Also, notability generally requires significant coverage, which means that people have written about him in detail. The references other than his CV do not discuss him in detail. A final note: Academic publications written by the subject do not count towards notability, unless these publications have been discussed by others. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 19:52, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The Nuclear Beauty Parlor hello, my article was not accepted on April 19. I re-submitted, with edits and more thorough citations yesterday April 30. i need assurance that the new edits are in cue for review. Please tell me how to check on status of article. Voice of Vicki (talk) 21:21, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Voice of Vicki: As you can see, I moved your submission to Draft:The Nuclear Beauty Parlor. As your submission is accepted, declined, or commented upon, you should see notifications on your talk page. You should have the page on your watchlist so you'll be able to watch progress from there. You can now use your sandbox for something else if you like. The notability of your submission is resting on some newspaper articles from the 80s. If you can provide a URL for those articles that would be very helpful. Chris Troutman (talk) 01:18, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]