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Template:Scott Alexander and Larry Karaszewski

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric 16:52, 8 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:FILMNAV we should only be including "primary" creators in navboxes. In terms of films, this is usually taken to being the director, so if we trim the film writing we would be left with just two links. Rob Sinden (talk) 11:44, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • I do not agree: They more than qualify for having a navbox, having written, directed and created multiple media properties. This comes off as a very narrow use for navboxes, not showing the breadth of a creator's output, and I ask the moderators to reconsider. --SavageEditor (talk) 14:39, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Invalid reasoning. They have directed, and plenty of director's navigational templates include "writing only"s and an assortment of other items. And their work is "plenty" primary. And the tool is useful. Ribbet32 (talk) 22:09, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:PD-USGov-HHS

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:13, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unused, replaceable by {{PD-USGov}} FASTILY 21:14, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Redundant Doctor Who Episode head/body

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 August 8. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric 16:52, 8 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Thoroughbred fatalities

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete per author approval Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:10, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This template is only transcluded on 10 articles and has no real benefit to navigation; there are about 10,000 articles in WP horse racing and at least a couple thousand of them would fit this criteria for inclusion; this is better off as a category. Montanabw(talk) 18:15, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Minhaj-ul-Quran International

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Template:Tt

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:36, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template is not transcluded in the main space and there are fewer than 50 uses outside.

It would be good to re-purpose as a wrapper for <span style="font-family: monospace"> to quick-replace uses of <tt>, which is a deprecated HTML 5 element, where a replacement using <samp>, <code>, or <kbd> is not obvious. I would not be against a rename and replace on affected pages also, for that reason. Izno (talk) 16:10, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • comment I agree that this is a bad name for this particular template, and I would support moving it to a new title (maybe {{template table row}}? or ?) so that this title can be used for the suggested purpose (i.e., a redirect to {{mono}}). by the way, you may want to change {{ttt}} as well? Frietjes (talk) 16:30, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Whatever rolls off the tongue - I'm not going to be picky. We might also simply subst and delete since the use case seems both limited and not the best use of a template given how complex it makes an otherwise simple table. A redirect to mono seems fine. I don't see an issue changing the other but it wasn't my first priority--if you want to add it to this nom, go ahead (if I don't get around to it in the next 24 hours). --Izno (talk) 00:40, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    All uses of {{ttt}} were equivalent to {{mono}} so I've just redirected it. --Izno (talk) 02:10, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Izno, great, I just remembered {{tlrow}}, so we can migrate any uses to that template (which has a better name). Frietjes (talk) 13:33, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Seems like a reasonable replacement and name. --Izno (talk) 14:53, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Callimachus

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 August 8. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric 16:52, 8 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox civilian attack

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The result of the discussion was keep. A merge as of now is rejected. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric 16:53, 8 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:Infobox civilian attack into Template:Infobox event.
Very similar templates, with no clear differentiation in purpose - all civilian attacks are events.

Many of the parameters are common to both templates. I list below, in collapsed sections, those which are unique to each template. Most of these are synonyms, albeit with the benefit of greater granularity in the civilian attack template:

  • |injuries= vs. |reported injuries=
  • |fatalities=/ |victims= vs. |Casualties=
  • |assailants=/ |numparts=/ |dfens= vs. |participants=
  • |susperps= vs. |perpetrators=
  • |inquiry= vs. |inquiries=

and the remaining five parameters of {{Infobox civilian attack}}:

  • |partof=
  • |target=
  • |timezone=
  • |weapons=
  • |motive=

could each easily apply in the event template.

Parameters unique to Infobox civilian attack
{{Infobox civilian attack
| partof      = 
| target      = 
| timezone    = 
| fatalities  = 
| injuries    = 
| victims     = <!-- or | victim = -->
| perpetrators= <!-- or | perpetrator = --> <!-- alias: | perps = or | perp = -->
| assailants  = <!-- or | assailant = -->
| susperps    = <!-- or | susperp = -->
| weapons     = 
| numparts    = <!-- or | numpart = -->
| dfens       = <!-- or | dfen = -->
| motive      = 
| inquiry     = 
}}
Parameters unique to Infobox event
{{Infobox event
| image_upright            =
| english_name             =
| duration                 =
| venue                    =
| also_known_as            =
| theme                    =
| cause                    =
| first_reporter           =
| budget                   =
| patron                   = <!-- or |patrons= -->
| organisers               = <!-- or |organizers= -->
| filmed_by                =
| participants             =
| outcome                  =
| casualties1              =
| casualties2              =
| casualties3              =
| reported deaths          =
| reported injuries        =
| reported missing         =
| reported property damage =
| burial                   =
| inquiries                =
| inquest                  =
| arrests                  =
| suspects                 =
| trial                    =
| sentence                 =
| publication_bans         =
| awards                   =
| url                      =
| blank_label              = <!-- or |blank_data= -->
| blank1_label             = <!-- or |blank1_data= -->
| blank2_label             = <!-- or |blank2_data= -->
| notes                    =
}}

The result of the merge should be at {{Infobox event}} with {{Infobox civilian attack}} kept as a redirect. A custom pro-forma blank for civilian attacks can be provided in the documentation, just as done for bands (vs. individuals) with {{Infobox musical artist}}

Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:50, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:What Now

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:35, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Empty ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:03, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Cleaning companies

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:35, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Such a broad definition is better suited by a category than a navbox. – Train2104 (t • c) 23:35, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:San Beda Red Cubs 2013-2014 NCAA Junior Basketball Champions

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:06, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

HS tournaments and awards are usually non-notable and not shown in articles. Babymiss fortune 05:51, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:NCAA Season 92 juniors' volleyball match-up results

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The result of the discussion was merge to articles using labelled section transclusion. This preserves the content of the templates themselves, but also removes the need for a template only used in one (maybe two) places. Primefac (talk) 02:33, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

HS tournaments and awards are usually non-notable and not shown in articles. Babymissfortune 05:49, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 August 8. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric 16:54, 8 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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