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editOpera-sounding song
editWhat was the possibly Wagnerian song sung by everyone on a train in a TV ad for Guinness beer around the turn of the millennium? Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 17:24, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- I can't find the original ad on youtube, but according to this, it was Carmina Burana. --Viennese Waltz 17:40, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- It must have worked, for Carlton also made a TV ad with the same song, specifically "O Fortuna".[1] --Lambiam 01:06, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- To be clear - Carmina Burana is an hour long. "O Fortuna" is its opening section and most famous excerpt. On the other hand, I'd have used In taberna quando sumus for people drinking on a train, for reasons that a casual perusal of the lyrics should make obvious. PianoDan (talk) 16:59, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- The same music was used in the UK in the 1970s to advertise Old Spice, "the mark of a man". Alansplodge (talk) 17:53, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- That one is definitely "O Fortuna". I reckon Old Spice has come a long ways since their simple whistled jingle,[2] this one allegedly featuring Matthew Perry's father. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:43, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- The whistling tune doesn't seem to be mentioned in Old Spice, but it was ubiquitous in its day. The tune also has words: "Old Spice means quality, said the captain to the bosun / Ask for the package with the ship that sails the ocean." ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:14, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Did Old Spice show this in UK too? Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 21:46, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- That one is definitely "O Fortuna". I reckon Old Spice has come a long ways since their simple whistled jingle,[2] this one allegedly featuring Matthew Perry's father. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:43, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- The same music was used in the UK in the 1970s to advertise Old Spice, "the mark of a man". Alansplodge (talk) 17:53, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- To be clear - Carmina Burana is an hour long. "O Fortuna" is its opening section and most famous excerpt. On the other hand, I'd have used In taberna quando sumus for people drinking on a train, for reasons that a casual perusal of the lyrics should make obvious. PianoDan (talk) 16:59, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- It must have worked, for Carlton also made a TV ad with the same song, specifically "O Fortuna".[1] --Lambiam 01:06, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
what is this anime?
edithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9OcqoQJff8 seeems to be pretty recent-ish, at least after 2013. thanks in advance! 194.105.239.21 (talk) 19:22, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- anyone???? 194.105.239.21 (talk) 19:24, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- Possibly Konohana Kitan. See here. The blonde character appears to be the same as the one third from the left on that page. --Jayron32 20:13, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- oh you're right! thank you so so much, have a nice week!~ 194.105.239.21 (talk) 194.105.239.21 (talk) 23:02, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- Possibly Konohana Kitan. See here. The blonde character appears to be the same as the one third from the left on that page. --Jayron32 20:13, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Yellowstone Dutton Ranch
editNot sure if this is a plot hole or not. In an episode of Yellowstone Season 5, Kaycee was chasing some horse thieves and ended up at the Montana-Canada border. My understanding is that the Yellowstone Dutton Ranch borders on Yellowstone National Park (ergo the name). In looking at a map, The Park is at the south border of Montana (along side Idaho and Wyoming). So, how did Kaycee get all the way across the State to get to the Canadian Border? I know he is in law enforcement but that seems quite a ways out of his jurisdiction. Is this Canuck missing something? 66.225.164.193 (talk) 21:40, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- (1) Hot pursuit?
- (2) If he's out of his jurisdiction to actually arrest suspects, he can presumably still follow them to gather information and, perhaps, ask local law enforcement for assistance. What subsequently happened?
- I notice from the article that the character is described as a "Livestock agent", which is wikilinked to Stock and station agency. The later article is centered on Australia/New Zealand, and does not indicate any law enforcement role. Perhaps this article needs enlargement, or the link in the TV series article should go to somewhere more appropriate? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 51.194.245.235 (talk) 04:42, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- The shooting location for the scenes on the Yellowstone Dutton Ranch is the Chief Joseph Ranch, Darby, Montana, with the Yellowstone National Park as a backdrop.[3] From there to the border with Canada is about 200 miles. On average, a healthy horse can travel around 25 to 35 miles a day. Quite some hot pursuit. Rather than classifying this as a plot hole, one might label it as an exercise of dramatic licence. --Lambiam 11:50, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- I know little about equestrianism, but only 25-35 miles? Heck, when younger I used regularly to walk 10 miles in 21/2 hours, and if I were (then) fit I would have expected to be able to walk 30 miles in a day (not that I ever had to). Endurance riding indirectly suggests working horses would be able to do rather better (though not 200 miles/day unless one were trying to emulate Dick Turpin). {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 51.194.245.235 (talk) 15:36, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- Horses are better sprinters than humans, but humans are (close to) the best endurance runners of the animal kingdom.[4]. Remember, in the Man versus Horse Marathon, run over a 22-mile course, sometimes the human wins. Services like the Pony Express required changing of horses several times per day; they were only ridden 10 miles on average. --Jayron32 19:56, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- With apologies to Bruce, baby, we were born to run. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:41, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- Another Bruce wrote that humans are designed for movement, and I'm sure he said (although the quote eludes me atm) they're meant to walk 15 miles a day. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 19:27, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- I have only seen one episide of this show but that was enough to know that the setting is contemporary rather than the Old West and the characters mostly drive pickup trucks or SUVs. It is 335 miles by road from Gardiner just north of Yellowstone National Park to Sunburst just south of the Canadian Border. It is about a 5-1/2 hour drive if you follow speed limits which few of the characters on that show would do. Cullen328 (talk) 00:09, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- As for the Chief Joseph Ranch filming location, in the fictional storyline, the ranch is supposed to be just north of Yellowstone National Park. In the real world, that ranch is about 290 miles from Gardiner, Montana, which is the northern entrance to the park. Cullen328 (talk) 00:49, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- According to List of law enforcement agencies in Montana, the Montana Department of Livestock is, at least in part, a law enforcement agency that deals with stolen cattle and horses, according to their website. Their jurisdiction is statewide. Cullen328 (talk) 01:12, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- As for the Chief Joseph Ranch filming location, in the fictional storyline, the ranch is supposed to be just north of Yellowstone National Park. In the real world, that ranch is about 290 miles from Gardiner, Montana, which is the northern entrance to the park. Cullen328 (talk) 00:49, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- I have only seen one episide of this show but that was enough to know that the setting is contemporary rather than the Old West and the characters mostly drive pickup trucks or SUVs. It is 335 miles by road from Gardiner just north of Yellowstone National Park to Sunburst just south of the Canadian Border. It is about a 5-1/2 hour drive if you follow speed limits which few of the characters on that show would do. Cullen328 (talk) 00:09, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Another Bruce wrote that humans are designed for movement, and I'm sure he said (although the quote eludes me atm) they're meant to walk 15 miles a day. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 19:27, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- With apologies to Bruce, baby, we were born to run. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:41, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- Horses are better sprinters than humans, but humans are (close to) the best endurance runners of the animal kingdom.[4]. Remember, in the Man versus Horse Marathon, run over a 22-mile course, sometimes the human wins. Services like the Pony Express required changing of horses several times per day; they were only ridden 10 miles on average. --Jayron32 19:56, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- I know little about equestrianism, but only 25-35 miles? Heck, when younger I used regularly to walk 10 miles in 21/2 hours, and if I were (then) fit I would have expected to be able to walk 30 miles in a day (not that I ever had to). Endurance riding indirectly suggests working horses would be able to do rather better (though not 200 miles/day unless one were trying to emulate Dick Turpin). {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 51.194.245.235 (talk) 15:36, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- The shooting location for the scenes on the Yellowstone Dutton Ranch is the Chief Joseph Ranch, Darby, Montana, with the Yellowstone National Park as a backdrop.[3] From there to the border with Canada is about 200 miles. On average, a healthy horse can travel around 25 to 35 miles a day. Quite some hot pursuit. Rather than classifying this as a plot hole, one might label it as an exercise of dramatic licence. --Lambiam 11:50, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
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