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Any documentary of PIE?

I look for a documentary about the PIE people, which portraits our known knowledge about them. Does anyone know?--Exx8 (talk) 10:20, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

I can't suggest any specific one, but typing "Proto Indo European" into the YouTube search box yields a long list of additional sub-aspects of that subject in addition to the initial title, and filtering on "Long (> 20 minutes)" brings up quite a few presentations longer than an hour. Perhaps others with a more focussed and/or academic interest on the subject can recommend particularly good ones. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.219.33.80 (talk) 17:16, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Here are some specific titles on YouTube: Who were the Proto-Indo-Europeans?; The Proto Indo Europeans; Who were the Proto-Indo-Europeans, and why should you care?; Who were the Proto-Indo-Europeans and Indo-Iranians?. There is no scientific consensus concerning the topic, and it is conceivable that some of these videos (which I haven't watched) are promoting a specific unproven hypothesis from a less-than-neutral point of view.  --Lambiam 20:43, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

What's the name of the Hawaiian song that plays in this video?

There's a Hawaiian song that plays at the 2:08 mark of this video, which I recognize because it was also played as background music in at least one episode of SpongeBob SquarePants. What's the title of this song? I'm not sure if it's one by Kapono Beamer or another of the usual Hawaiian/Polynesian ukulele music composers. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 11:15, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

The primary instrument there is a Hawaiian style steel guitar. It was hugely popular across the US in the first half of the 20th century. See also slack-key guitar, which often refers to the same thing. Music of Hawaii may be a good place to start your research. --Jayron32 11:47, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Given that the song was used in SpongeBob, it's also possible that it was part of the Associated Production Music library. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 12:09, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

APM Music was founded in 1983, but the video is from 1967. So the song may well be in their catalog, but was composed much earlier.  --Lambiam 20:33, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

I don't recognise the tune. It could also be library music. The newsreel is by British Pathé, and De Wolfe Music worked with them "on into the 1960s" according to the article. ---Sluzzelin talk 20:45, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Hawaiian Calypso. To my surprise, Shazam picked it up from that old ad. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇} 17:17, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Yes, looks like Hawaiian Calypso it is. Thanks for the help. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 10:19, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Resolved

Music biography

how notable do you have to be to have a biography music related — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr.Knrz. (talk • contribs) 12:02, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Do you mean in Wikipedia? Please see WP:NMUSIC.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 12:20, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Woods of Ypres

I have two questions, firstly, did this guy really did or is that just part of the band image, and if he did die, as stated that it was in a collision with a car, was this suicide as per the subject matter of their songs. Secondly, what other bands have a similar suicide based subject matter as a predominant aspect of their music? Thanks Anton.Brad (talk) 16:30, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Reliable sources reported the accident and memorial services, for example Loud Wire and Local Ontario news site SOOTODAY, and several others reported on it. I have seen no reliable reports that mention suicide, merely a car accident. To answer your second question, Wikipedia has Category:Songs about suicide. --Jayron32 16:40, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

[Edit Conflict] First of all. I presume you meant to write ". . . did this guy really die . . . .

Secondly, have you any reason at all, beyond your personal speculation, to suppose that Gold's death was (a) not genuine, and (b) not an accident? Committing suicide to further one's band's image where one's death immediately leads to the band's dissolution does not seem a likely promotional tactic in real life.* Web searching reveals to me no indications that, in the 9 years since his death, Gold has supposedly re-appeared, any doubts about his actually dying have been expressed, or any speculations that it was a suicide have been made.

(*In the 1981 novel Hype and the associated album Hype: The songs of Tom Mahler by Robert Calvert, a performer is assassinated on behalf of his manager to promote the performer's work and financially benefit the manager, but this is of course entirely fictional. I would not be wholly surprised, however, if something similar had happened in real life at some point.)

I can't answer your second area of query: doubtless others can. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.219.33.80 (talk) 17:05, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I did mean die, sorry, type-o. Also, I did not mean that he killed himself to promote the band. Rather that most of their songs are about suicide and so for him to then die, may indeed have been a suicide as this was clearly on his mind, and is a leading cause of death in young white men. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anton.Brad (talk • contribs) 09:06, 30 September 2020 (UTC)