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April 24

The Outsiders

So, in the movie, does Dallas (Dally) Winston die?? cause there wasn't anything that proved he actually died, of course he was shot a bunch of times, but still, is there hope?! Did Dallas live?!?! Cause I just read stuff like "gun-ed down", he did die didn't he? I haven't read the book yet, so I would like to know. Thanks. Moptopstyle1 ("I Feel Fine.") (talk) 04:14, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

From the article on the film: "Unable to bear Johnny's death, Dallas robs a convenience store at gunpoint and is killed by the police (in an apparent act of suicide by cop)". I have never seen the film nor read the book, so I can't personally vouch for it. 24.189.90.68 (talk) 05:19, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Dally does die. I've read the book and watched the movie. —C Teng^(talk) 00:12, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, how come in every awesome movie the best dude has to die?!?!? Oh well, thank you. :)

(I really really, really, wish Dallas lived. I was in a state of shock when I saw him get gunned down, couldn't breathe. That bad man. That bad)

"Let's do this for Johnny man!!!" Moptopstyle1 ("I Feel Fine.") (talk) 07:54, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Lord of the rings

In the fellowship of the ring movie, there is a scene where the Ring utters a harsh chant. Gandalf suddenly stands up and also begins the chant in Black Speech. Thunder crackles as the sky darkens. The Council stare around them in fear and confusion. Is this taken from the book or does it appear in the movie only? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.217.180.125 (talk • contribs)

It's sort of in the book, but apparently not so special-effecty (I haven't seen the films, but I trust your description). The ring does not "speak". Gandalf quotes the ring inscription in the Black Speech, and:

The change in the wizard's voice was astounding. Suddenly it became menacing, powerful, harsh as stone. A shadow seemed to pass over the high sun, and the porch for a moment grew dark. All trembled, and the Elves stopped their ears.

'Never before has any voice dared to utter words of that tongue in Imladris, Gandalf the Grey,' said Elrond, as the shadow passed and the company breathed once more.

— Deor (talk) 14:42, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.217.180.125 (talk • contribs)

Abba :I have a dream

hi guys,can anyone tell me what is the exact meaning of "i have a dream" song.I'm wondering what it's meaning,although i know it has a great meaning. At least can you tell me where i can find it(I mean a web site). Thanks.dany (talk) 15:10, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

I know this sounds like a bad answer and not very useful, but I mean it: Songs, like poems, mean whatever you want them to mean. The creators may intend them to be one thing, but the true meaning is whatever you take from the song. Find the lyrics, read them, or just listen to it, and take whatever you like from it. Someone else can post a more literal answer if they like, but art is totally open to interpretation, and there is rarely one "right" interpretation. Aaronite (talk) 15:28, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Seems like "think positive thoughts to help you through the bad times", much like "My Favourite Things" from The Sound of Music. This line explains the concept:

When the dog bites, 
when the bee stings,
when I'm feeling sad,
I simply remember my favorite things,
and then I don't feel...
so bad. 

StuRat (talk) 15:31, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

The lyrics are here amongst other places, and yes, it basically means "I'm optimistic."--Shantavira|^{feed me} 15:59, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Snooker

Has anybody ever snookered his/her opponent in competition with only the black ball remaining in play (by method of angleing the opponent obviously)? SwampyQ2 (talk) 16:23, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't see how that is possible within the rules of snooker, unless you can better explain what you mean.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 16:22, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

i had no idea it was impossible. my bad, thanks for your time. SwampyQ2 (talk) 18:40, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Theoretically the white-ball could land hovering over a cushion in such a way that the ball cannot get a 'direct' line to the remaining ball and so would have to play off a cushion. I've no idea if that's happened or not, but can't see why it wouldn't be potentially possible. ny156uk (talk) 21:51, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

That is definition of being 'angled', however it's quite obvious from above-mentioned that the frame stops when only the cueball and black stay on the baize. SwampyQ2 (talk) 21:46, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean by the frame stops? The frame stops when all balls are potted or one player has a lead above what can be scored by the opponent... Having only the cueball and black left does not end the frame... Gazhiley (talk) 09:43, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

So... Can you play on in a tournament when there are only cue- and black ball left and you're trailing more than seven points? SwampyQ2 (talk) 20:05, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Trying to identify a radio hit from the mid 2000s

There's this Serbian song Gde ljubav putuje (it can be heard on Youtube, e.g. here). The tune of its refrain (starts at 1:05 on that video, the lyrics are "Kad me udara, udara, na zemlju obara ..." etc.) sounds very similar to the refrain of the song which I'm trying to find. It used to be a radio hit (at least in some European countries) during the early or mid 2000s. It was constantly played on the radio, but I've only heard it from a distance. I don't know what country it was from. At least part of the lyrics were in English, but I think another part was in some other language. I seem to remember the words "far far away" and/or "so far away" in the refrain. Unlike this Serbian song I've linked to, which is sung with a low-pitched female voice typical for Serbian pop, that song had the refrain sung by a very thin, gentle female voice.--91.148.159.4 (talk) 17:27, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

i didn't listen to what you linked, but so far away is a song by dire straits from their mid-80s album. SwampyQ2 (talk) 19:03, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

...entitled Brothers in Arms. See So Far Away (Dire Straits song) for song details. I believe that's sung by a man, but with a very soft voice, which matches the description given. StuRat (talk) 19:40, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

yes, Mark Knopfler has a tender voice. SwampyQ2 (talk) 20:47, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

That may be, but it's hard to stretch that into a "thin, gentle female voice". Adam Bishop (talk) 21:49, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I meant tender for a woman. Thanks, but that's not the song I'm looking for. I did try searching by the lyrics, but "So Far Away" and "Far Far Away" appear to be so common in titles and texts that I've come to the conclusion that it can only be identified by the melody, which is very catchy and memorable. Unfortunately, I'm very poorly versed in modern pop music genres, but it was more like dance music, pretty commercial. It used a formula that I think only became common in the 2000s - a section with a strong beat and possibly singing by a low-pitched male voice, alternating with a sugar-coated section sung by a somewhat surreal high-pitched female voice (well, I guess it sort of started in West Coast rap music already in the 1990, but I don't remember that clearly). --91.148.159.4 (talk) 21:57, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

After finally listening to the song, it is obviously not similar to So Far Away by Dire Straits. I can't think of what else it might be like though. Maybe it's just a coincidence. Adam Bishop (talk) 05:47, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles on TV shows and movies

Have any TV show/film producers made a request to Wikipedia, to make a specific change to a Wikipedia article (temporarily) so it would fit in with the script? For example, say that in some movie, a fictional character searches himself, and instead of the fictional character page that would normally pop up, the movie character finds a biographical page about him because the producers made a change to the article.

Just wondering. Thanks, —C Teng^(talk) 23:55, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Possibly. But it would be much easier to do any number of other things. For instance, download a dump of Wikipedia, change the article in question, and then host that version on their own server. Dismas|^(talk) 01:44, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

I have noticed that TV show often refer to wikipedia-like sites instead of wikipedia itself. J. in Jerusalem (talk) 07:33, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Note that Weeds (TV show) displayed the then-current Wikipedia page for Weeds, during one episode's opening credits. I'm not aware of them making or requesting any changes to the page, though. StuRat (talk) 07:56, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

The Wikipedia prank depicted in the January 22, 2009 episode of 30 Rock, "Retreat to Move Forward", immediately led to those same items [1] being inserted in Wikipedia. Pepso2 (talk) 16:05, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Don't mention the elephant in the room! :) 16:23, 25 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sfan00 IMG (talk • contribs)

That would be the elephant whose population has tripled in the past six months, right? -- 174.24.208.192 (talk) 05:29, 26 April 2010 (UTC)