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January 2

Substitutiary Locomotion

Does anyone know where I can get a sound file (CD or otherwise) of the song "Substitutiary Locomotion" from the movie "Bedknobs and Broomsticks"? 71.220.120.12 (talk) 01:05, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

It is track 9 on the soundtrack. See here. -- kainaw™ 03:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

World Magic Awards Winners

Can someone list the winners of the 2007 World Magic Awards, or at least direct me to a site that does? Wikipedia doesn't have an article on it, unfortunately. Valens Impérial Császár 93 03:43, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Did you try Googling "World magic Awards 2007" yet?--TreeSmiler (talk) 04:00, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

The event just finished airing on television about an hour ago. I doubt Googling will find much. Check here in a day or so. -- kainaw™ 04:03, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh?[1]--TreeSmiler (talk) 04:12, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

What is that IMDB link supposed to prove? There is no list of winners, as requested. It's a bare bones entry for a TV show, which I'd have to say, qualifies as "not much." --LarryMac | Talk 21:54, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

The point being made was that if the original OP has googled for 30 seconds he would have found the answers. Like here [2]--TreeSmiler (talk) 22:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

OK, again, not an answer to the query. At least read the links you provide to see if they're at all helpful. --LarryMac | Talk 23:34, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Of course they are helpful in directing the OP to a probable source of answers. The fact they don't have the latest results in not my fault. any way, if it ain't on google, how the hell does anybody expect to find it on WP?--TreeSmiler (talk) 23:37, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I did google it prior to posting, but the results I found only named some of the winners instead of a complete list and didn't credit which award went to whom. And this only seemed to describe the winners from WMA 2000. Valens Impérial Császár 93 23:04, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

OK sorry. Youll just have to keep watching those pages then--TreeSmiler (talk) 23:34, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Voice recordings in animated films, television shows, cartoons, etc.

When they record the human voices of the human actors to "match" the lip/mouth movements of the animated cartoon characters on screen ... how do they do that?

• Do they have the actor record the script lines of human voice first and then later draw in the animated cartoon to match that sound recording? Or do they draw the cartoon picture first and then later, through trial and error, the human actor keeps reading the script lines over and over and over until his pacing matches the cartoon character's mouth? (If the latter, how do they do that? It would seem quite impossible.)

• Also, when the cartoon / animated scene has several characters ... how do they do that? Do they record each actor one-by-one and then just splice it all together in the appropriate sequence? Or do they have all of the actors in a recording session together, speaking the lines in correct sequence one-by-one?

• Example: Say there is a scene on The Flintstones in which four characters are speaking ... Fred, Wilma, Barney, and Betty. Does the Fred actor record all his lines in a studio all alone ... and then the Wilma actress records her lines in a studio all alone ... etc ... and later, the producer just splices it all together? Or do all four actors sit in a recording session and read their lines one-by-one, just as if they were acting in a play / theatre / TV show / film?

Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:50, 2 January 2008 (UTC))

According to a documentary I saw about the making of the Pagemaster all the actors in the animations were recorded and their faces videoed reading before the animations were made. They were recorded separately at different times, and the animations were based on their facial movements. However for something like "the Flintstones" where there is a regular cast who all live locally, it would not be difficult to get the cast together to record. 62.30.217.57 (talk) 10:10, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Bear in mind that it is the actors who are the actors. They have priority. The animators don't necessarily know much about acting, and it is up to the actors to give pace and expression to the script, especially in comedy when timing is so important. This would be almost impossible if they had to match their lip movements to the cartoon at the same time as acting. Mostly, the actors all get together to do this just as though they were recording a radio show together.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 13:54, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

In the Futurama commentary, they explain that the actors do all the lines ahead of time. Some are not local - they record in a studio local to the actor and the director listens on the phone. When it all done, they send the recordings to the main studio. At times, editing requires new lines and it is too difficult to redo an entire sequence of animation. So, they try squeeze the lines in so the mouth appears to be close to what it actually said. If possible, they do a cover-up by cutting to another character or placing the moving mouth behind an obstruction - then there's no mouth to match. -- kainaw™ 14:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Almost always the sound is recorded first. The animators will storyboard it (and occasionally do rough animation from that with rough dialog) to get a sense of pace and how the movie will work. In big productions like pixar, it also allows them to start animation on big action sequences or dance sequences. Then they bring in the actors to perform (usually alone to fit their schedules). Even in movies like Shrek, the actors usually only work a week or two spread over a few months. Occasionally they will bring multiple people in together, especially if they interact a lot like Mike and Sully in Monster's Inc. Surf's up is the one recent movie that I know of where they made a big deal out of having all the actor's there at once. That's the exception to the rule. In general, less people means less sound corruption of the recording. Nancy Cartwright, the voice of Bart Simpson, wrote a really interesting book on the process. She only works two days a week most episodes.160.10.98.106 (talk) 16:07, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Well i saw this thing where they were making the incredibles, and what they did was that to match the voices with the character's lips, they had these three beeps or flashes on the screen that the actor would see, so that he would know when to say his line. They do the animation first and then they do the voice recordings. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dlo2012 (talk • contribs) 03:57, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I suspect that it varies per project and has changed over the years. I recall reading an article about Star Trek: The Animated Series; the actors did the readings and mailed the tapes in. And after browsing the article, that is exactly what happened. --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 14:27, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks to all ... very interesting input ... much appreciated ... (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 23:18, 6 January 2008 (UTC))

The Number of MMOG Subscribers

How many subscribers do the MMOG's; World of Warcraft, Star Wars Galaxies and The Matrix Online have respectively? 71.243.118.2 (talk) 13:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

WoW: 9m, SWG: ~200k. --Ouro (blah blah) 15:05, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

cost of a single record in 1973

Christmas 1973 No 1 hit was Slade's Merry Christmas Everybody. How much did a single cost in 1973 please. thanks sue —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.20.189.155 (talk) 17:07, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

According to my mother a single in 1973 would've cost around 49 pence. I don't know how to adjust that for modern times but I would assume it to be around the £5-£10 mark. Hope that helps. Scarian^{Call me Pat} 17:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

This question was answered above to the effect that at one point in 1973 they cost 48p, but that it was a period of high inflation and the price would have risen over the course of the year. If you want a round figure, try 50p. SaundersW (talk) 18:50, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

And if you want to get an indication of what 48p might be worth today, |this website will calculate it for you. 84.13.133.53 (talk) 14:25, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

The Queen Movie - CNN archive footage

Having watched the above movie I am trying to find out about some CNN archive footage used. It was an interview from Santa Monica, USA with an English lady (who I believe to be Tracy Ulman) & the footage was shown on CNN at the time of Diana, Princess of Wales death in 1997.

I am trying to confirm the identity of the English lady whom I believe to be Tracy Ulman. Can anyone help? Thank you "86.138.144.254 (talk) 17:27, 2 January 2008 (UTC)"

I found this: CNN Image sources. Apparently it has footage dating back from the 1980's. Hope it helps! Scarian^{Call me Pat} 17:33, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh wait... are you asking if we have seen it and if we can confirm that it is Tracy Ullman? We would need to have the link/source ourselves to be able to judge that. Scarian^{Call me Pat} 17:34, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Tracey Ullman's entry at IMDb confirms that The Queen included archive footage of her. —Tamfang (talk) 08:42, 3 January 2008 (UTC)