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Lincoln Park Conservatory

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I've listed this article for peer review because…1) I want to learn about peer review (my first), 2) I think the changes I have made have substantially improved the article, 3) The Conservatory is an important part of Chicago's History, 4) I would like to create a featured article.

Thanks, Buster7 (talk) 23:06, 7 November 2009 (UTC)--

Comments

• The WP:LEAD is quite thin. After you finish writing an article. Consider its structure. Then make sure each section is mentioned in the summary in the LEAD.
  • See thoughts below on location.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:29, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
• See WP:CAPTION#Wording regarding ending periods.
  • Please reread.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 01:09, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
    • Still not right. In a nutshell: Periods at the end of complete sentences and omitted otherwise.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:29, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
• Find an infobox will improve
• Make sure your article is structured so that each paragraph has a distinct topic and make sure each paragraph has at least one inline citation.
  • "Surrounding gardens" section is still uncited.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:34, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
• Convert the bullet points to regular prose.
• Go to OpenStreetMap and create a map. (See Loop, Chicago or Trump International Hotel and Tower (Chicago)). Went to OpenSreetMap but not sure how to get it here.--Buster7 (talk) 02:10, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
• Is this in Category:Landmarks in Chicago, Illinois for a reason. Is it a Chicago Landmark, National Historic Landmark, or National Register of Historic Places listing?removed landmark staus for now...not sure
• If Schiller is famous link him. .
• Link Industrial Revolution, Victorian, vestibule--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 23:27, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

• In the future let me strike when I agree an issue has been resolved. --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:19, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
• Here is how I make the maps. It is roundabout but it works.

1. Find a Chicago map on WP from OpenStreetMaps.
2. Click on it to go to its description page
3. Click on its source link
4. Zoom out a bit
5. Move the map so it is centered on where I want
6. Zoom in.
7. Use the export feature to save the map to my hard drive
8. Use microsoft paint to add black borders
9. Note the permalink will give you the source link
10. Upload the map to commons with all the same templates as the original map --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:19, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• Are you still working on this?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 13:29, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

• • Honestly, I'm a bit embarassed by my inability to use tools, etc. I'm pretty sure that I exported a map to my hard drive but I can't find it..thanks for the instructions (re:map) but I'm stuck. Also, I think the lead is finished. If, in your opinion, it needs more, maybe I could learn from your edits. Same with the captions. I see that you didn't strike so my changes were probably wrong. But I'm not sure why.--Buster7 (talk) 17:15, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
    • It should be saved on your computer as map.jpg or .gif. Do a search on your computer files.
      • I am creating one for Petrillo Music Shell right now. The file name is map.png.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:41, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

• "lakefront park system" is it in the Chicago Park District. You should link this term in the article if it is. Then use the park district page for some citations if it has quality content.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:28, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
• You are pretty vague with the location. Look at some of my Chicago building/structure WP:GA and WP:FA articles. They almost say exactly where in the city this is located. You talk about "lakefront park system" as if the reader knows what lake you are talking about and Lincoln Park Zoo as if the international reader knows what part of Chicago it is in. I strongly encourage a map, although it is not required. I am starting to add them to my building articles that I work on. Take a look at Trump International Hotel and Tower (Chicago)#Location and imagine it without a map. Clearly it helps the reader. You don't have to include the location detail like that article though. Even something like Museum of Contemporary Art, Chicago or McDonald's Cycle Center is sufficient.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:28, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

• Link Alfred Caldwell Lily Pool, South Side (Chicago) and other terms that the international reader will not know if they have articles.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:33, 15 November 2009 (UTC)