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Christine Nelson

I've listed this article on a character from Degrassi for peer review because I am interested in getting it to FA, or at least A-class. I re-created the page from a redirect, which was previously a copypaste from the Degrassi fan wiki that was later removed because of no sources. I was recently able to use the correct citation formats as I gained access to several books cited to get page numbers. Thanks, ToQ100gou (talk) 08:55, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Comments from Aoba47

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I am uncertain if I will be able to do a full review of this article, but I want to try my best to help as fictional characters articles are my favorites on Wikipedia and I love seeing another editor work on one. I have never seen any of the Degrassi shows so I am approaching this with an outside perspective. Please use ALT text for the infobox image, and make sure any other images in the article also have appropriate ALT text. There actually is ALT text. Is it not showing up on your end? ToQ100gou (talk) 06:03, 28 May 2021 (UTC) Thank you for pointing this out. I think it would be helpful to move the ALT text parameter to be next to the image since I had missed it because it was lower down in the infobox. Aoba47 (talk) 18:33, 28 May 2021 (UTC) Okay, will do! ToQ100gou (talk) 01:00, 29 May 2021 (UTC) It is encourage to keep non-free media usage to a minimal and only for cases where it illustrates a point that cannot be conveyed through prose alone. In the body of the article, there are three separate, non-free images of the character, and I do not think all of them are necessary. I believe that maybe the first image out of the three is the most unnecessary because it really has no purpose other than depicting the character as is, which the infobox image already does. The second image is to depict the character with her daughter and the third is to show what the character looked like in the newer installments. I actually debated whether to use a publicity image from the newer series for the infobox but the character is mostly associated with the original show. ToQ100gou (talk) 11:31, 27 May 2021 (UTC) Thank you for the response. I could see The Next Generation image being appropriate because the character looks so different in this installment, but did any critics or media outlets comment on this change? If so, it would be helpful to mention that as it would provide a stronger justification for the image. I do not see a strong justification for the first image (i.e. the one in the Degrassi Junior High one as readers already get a good sense of the character's look from the infobox image as this one just seems to be a repeat of that. I would recommend removing it. As for the second image (i.e. the Degrassi High), I do not think that is a strong enough justification to have a non-free image as the reader does not necessarily need an image to understand that she had a daughter. I think a stronger justification for the image is needed. That's just my opinion though so hopefully this will get more discussion. Aoba47 (talk) 18:36, 27 May 2021 (UTC) I've removed the first two images and retained the Next Generation image. Unfortunately, I am having trouble finding sources describing the character from the Next Generation era, but I am still looking. My computer's hard drive sort of died so I'm currently using the main living room computer until I find one of my old laptops to replace the drive, but if need be, I can replace the image with a scene of an episode she has a prominent part in. ToQ100gou (talk) 03:39, 28 May 2021 (UTC) I am sorry that you are having computer issues. They can be a real pain. I do not have a major issue with this image, but it would be nice to get some critical commentary to really support its inclusion. Aoba47 (talk) 18:33, 28 May 2021 (UTC) Episode titles like "It's Late" (Degrassi Junior High) should in quotation marks not in italics. I would also change the link to the article's current title and not the redirect. The lead seems rather long to me, especially when the first three paragraphs are entirely plot summary. I would work on condensing this information down because this should be an overview. I do not believe the citations in the lead are necessary as this information should be also located and supported in the article itself. Things like Degrassi Junior High should be linked on their first instance in the body of the article. I hope these comments are helpful and apologies for not doing a full review. Hopefully, this will get the ball rolling to encourage other editors to also participate in this peer review. Aoba47 (talk) 20:37, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

STANDARD NOTE: I have added this PR to the Template:FAC peer review sidebar to get quicker and more responses. When this PR is closed, please remove it from the list. Also, consider adding the sidebar to your userpage to help others discover pre-FAC PRs, and please review other articles in that template. Thanks! Z1720 (talk) 21:15, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi ToQ100gou, usually PRs that have not received additional feedback for a month are closed. Are you still interested in receiving feedback in this PR, or do you want to to close it? Z1720 (talk) 16:29, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

@Z1720: I would definitely prefer feedback. I aim to get this article good enough for FA and so this can be closed after being reviewed and I can nominate another article for PR. ToQ100gou (talk) 02:02, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

@ToQ100gou: Sounds good. I was checking in to make sure this wasn't abandoned and to let future readers of this page know that feedback is still requested. The best feedback I can give is to review WP:FACs: this will help you understand what the FA criteria are and make you familiar with the FAC format. If you don't feel like you are experienced enough to review FAs, I suggest only reviewing for technical jargon: FAs must be understood to the average reader, and a new reviewer is more likely to find areas that might be confusing to those readers. Reviewing FACs also builds goodwill among the FA community: although there is no QPQ at FAC, some editors will not review articles from noms who have not reviewed themselves because they are not confident that the nominator knows the FA criteria. I hope to catch up on the articles in Template:FAC peer review sidebar, but I cannot guarantee anything as I have a very busy couple of months. Let me know if you need anything or have questions. Z1720 (talk) 02:13, 8 July 2021 (UTC)