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Image:Itv3-Launch.png edit

Image:Itv3-Launch.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Aidsoo (notify | contribs).
  • Image is a mock, high resolution and the original source no longer exists. Suggest a new image of the former ITV3 logo is uploaded in place of this. Wikiwoohoo (talk) 03:11, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Itv1.png edit

Image:Itv1.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Aidsoo (notify | contribs).
  • Image is a mock, high resolution and the original source no longer exists. Suggest a new image of the former ITV3 logo is uploaded in place of this. Wikiwoohoo (talk) 03:18, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Itv2.png edit

Image:Itv2.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Aidsoo (notify | contribs).
  • Image is a mock, high resolution and the original source no longer exists. Suggest a new image of the former ITV3 logo is uploaded in place of this. Wikiwoohoo (talk) 03:18, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:BBClondon2005.jpg edit

Image:BBClondon2005.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Wikiwoohoo (notify | contribs).

Image:War.GIF edit

Image:War.GIF (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Gabr-el (notify | contribs).
  • Orphaned, unencyclopedic and low quality. This user-created stick figure image is unlikely to ever be employed in a useful fashion on the encyclopedia. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 10:38, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, feel free to delete it. (I created it).Gabr-el 16:56, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Shokoa.jpg edit

Image:Shokoa.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Esuqi (notify | contribs).
  • The use of this copyrighted Time Magazine cover is not justified. According to the fair use rationale, the image is used (1) to "show the level of infamy he [the guy featured] achieved" and (2) to "bring visual stimuli to an article mainly full of dense text". The first purpose could be accomplished with 1 line of text (like "the guy was so famous that he was on Time's cover that week) and the second (if really judged necessary) could be accomplished with some user created image (we can't simply say: This use is fair because otherwise our article would be boring). Damiens.rf 12:23, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. "Replaceable? unknown" sums it up. Should only be used if no alternative free image is available, and "unknown" implies "didn't look". Unusual? Quite TalkQu 21:49, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Paterson bridge construction.jpg edit

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The result of the debate was: - Clearly obvious Keep....perhaps sometimes a bit more common sense ? - Peripitus (Talk) 00:59, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Paterson bridge construction.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Nomadtales (notify | contribs).
  • Image has no verifiable source, but my taggings were repeatedly removed. This is claimed to be a picture of the construction of a bridge that was inaugurated on 1910. This would mean the image's copyright would be expired today. But, without a verifiable source, we can't really say this picture is really what it says it is. Using unsourced images like this opens a grave precedent. Yes, this image is probably what it says it is, but just like anything else on Wikipedia, we need verifiable sources. Damiens.rf 12:50, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and block user for disruption. This is a very obviously public domain image. This user has had this pointed out to him by myself, Theresa Knott, and numerous other users, but has persisted in repeatedly nominating it for deletion. Rebecca (talk) 13:08, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    You're an admin. If you honestly believe I should be blocked, go on and do it yourself and face the consequences, instead of inciting others to do so. IFD is for discussion about the images, not the editors. Please keep your rant elsewhere. --Damiens.rf 17:12, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Quality and content of the photograph suggests its age is as stated and hence it is now public domain. Unusual? Quite TalkQu 13:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)\[reply]
  • Keep and block nominator for disruption - per reasons said by Rebecca, and also disruptively nominated this image when it was clearly stated it was in the Public Domain and is a work of the Australian government. --Arnzy (talk · contribs) 14:45, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and block nominator for disruption' per Rebecca and Arnzy. The user has been warned about nominating this again. JRG (talk) 00:50, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I agree that the image is consistent with the claims as to what it is and, while I haven't been to Paterson in a few months, it does seem to be taken at Paterson. That said, the nominator does have a point in that the image has no source information. I have tagged the image appropriately and notified the uploader, which is really what the nominator should have done before listing here. I believe that the uploader should be given time to provide source information before any deletion is considered as the image does, in my opinion, have historical value. --AussieLegend (talk) 04:40, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • As I explained, I really did that before listing it here[1]. But I was reverted twice by currently blocked user Rebecca [2] [3] and once by Theresa knott [4]. I wish you all teh luck with your tagging. --Damiens.rf 05:23, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • Sorry, I must have missed that, which is ironic since it's the first thing you said. Going by what's written in Wikipedia:Image use policy, specifically the Requirements section, all images need a source and therefore removal of the tags seems inappropriate. There's nothing to indicate that PD sources are exempt form the inclusion of source information so I'm puzzled as to why two administrators would ignore written policy and remove maintenance tags. I'd be interested to read their reasoning. --AussieLegend (talk) 07:18, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • No problem. You may ask Theresa right now, but you'll have to wait until Rebecca's edit-warring block expires. --Damiens.rf 12:34, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Silly nomination of obviously public domain image.--Grahame (talk) 06:07, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - the image is from a NSW Dept of Public Works collection of photos taken in 1909 and 1910. They are available in the State Library of NSW. This image has been scanned in from there. Source added. INTGAFW (talk) 23:01, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Image:NikitaKhrushchev.jpg edit

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The result of the debate was: - Delete - without a listed source I have to assume that the BBC was correct is noting this image as an AP press photo. Nothing I can see says that this is an official photo rather than, as seems implicit, a press one from 1960 (possibly in New York). Asserted to fail NFCC#8 and would also, if argued, fail NFCC#1 as like Image:Nikita Khrusjtsjov.jpg we already have free images of him. Though there is assertion below that the image is iconic, there is no assertion in the articles, so there is no benefit to readers - Peripitus (Talk) 08:05, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:NikitaKhrushchev.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Flcelloguy (notify | contribs).
  • Image has no source and it's vague fair use rationale can not justify the use of this image in 6 articles. Damiens.rf 14:53, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, but reduce usage. My rationale with references to WP:NFCC: Clauses 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 seem to apply. Clause 1 applies to one of the articles, History of the Soviet Union (1953–1985), as an official depection aids understanding in this context. Clause 3 has not been met - image is not essential in other articles so should be removed from these. Clause 10 - some work required to include copyright holder name, etc., but should be fixable. Unusual? Quite TalkQu 16:33, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Unusual. —Ed 17 for President Vote for Ed 17:55, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Clearly irreplaceable historic photo. --Irpen 02:39, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Image:Beria timemag 1101530720 400.jpg edit

Image:Beria timemag 1101530720 400.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Humus sapiens (notify | contribs).
  • Magazine cover used in violation of WP:NFCC#8 in 2 articles. The magazine (or it's cover) is not relevant to the articles (it's not discussed). Damiens.rf 15:00, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - nomination says it all, not relevant to the article Unusual? Quite TalkQu 21:43, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Actually, it's a perfect illustration for the article Enemy of the people. Note that the notification of deletion covers the picture's caption: "July 20, 1953 TIME magazine ironic cover: "Lavrenty Beria: Enemy of the people" published soon after his arrest." He was the chief of secret police for a regime that often condemned people as "enemies of the people" and was then himself arrested. A2Kafir (and...?) 16:20, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. That's an interesting point, as I didn't look at the caption. I'm not sure it justifies the use of a non free image though as another, free, image of anyone (not just Beria) who had been described as an enemy of the people could be equally suitable. Just a thought. Unusual? Quite TalkQu 17:01, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Even if the image is relevant to the article, it can't be used in any article as there is no fair-use rationale for any article at this time. --AussieLegend (talk) 23:02, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:CarterTIMECover1994.jpg edit

Image:CarterTIMECover1994.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Darth Kalwejt (notify | contribs).
  • Jimmy Carter on Time's cover. Image is used just as an eye candy. Damiens.rf 15:02, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Clinton Tsongas.jpg edit

Image:Clinton Tsongas.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Darth Kalwejt (notify | contribs).
  • One more eye-candy Time magazine cover. The text of the article does not calls for this picture. Damiens.rf 15:03, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. It illustrates the fact that Clinton and Tsongas were perceived by the media to be the front runners.¬¬¬¬ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.19.233 (talk) 20:26, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Image is non-free and was uploaded 14 months ago but has no FUR. I have tagged the image appropriately and notified the uploader. Regardless of the outcome of this IfD, it should be deleted if no FUR is provided. --AussieLegend (talk) 21:45, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:DeanTime.JPG edit

Image:DeanTime.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Bbsrock (notify | contribs).
  • Time magazine cover used as an eye-candy in 2 articles that do not discuss the image at all (they don't event talk about the magazine). Damiens.rf 15:06, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:KargilPak.png edit

Image:KargilPak.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Idleguy (notify | contribs).
  • This eye-candy time magazine cover is used in one article where it's not mentioned anywhere other than the (unsourced) image's caption itself. Damiens.rf 15:10, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and work into article better. Given the significant status that a Time magazine front cover confers on a subject, and the extremely important nature of the ongoing kashmir troubles, deletion makes no sense at all, and would further reinforce systematic bias. 82.36.75.12 (talk) 19:15, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:JseinfeldTIME.JPG edit

Image:JseinfeldTIME.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Bbsrock (notify | contribs).
  • This eye-candy time magazine cover is used jut to decorate the information "Jerry Seinfeld was even featured on the cover of Time magazine's first issue of 1998" (no other mention in the article) Damiens.rf 15:11, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Time magazine considered the series end significant enough to warrant a cover story, which hence makes the image of the cover significant. By removing the image, the article's value would be diminished. 82.36.75.12 (talk) 19:19, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:James-rouse.png edit

Image:James-rouse.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by 718 Bot (notify | contribs).
  • Time magazine cover used just to illustrate this (unfortunatelly) dead person. Damiens.rf 15:13, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Image establishes significance of article subject. Due to their passing away, sourcing a truly free replacement portrait would be difficult to impossible. 82.36.75.12 (talk) 19:21, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Frol Kozlov.jpg edit

Image:Frol Kozlov.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Todowd (notify | contribs).
  • Time magazine cover used to push a point: "As the Time cover illustrated shows, he was for many years thought to be Khrushchev's likely successor". Damiens.rf 15:15, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - "used to push a point?" I'd call that WP:V, myself (although with a need for a rewrite). Subject is long dead, making a truly free replacement image unlikely. 82.36.75.12 (talk) 19:24, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Malta Summit.jpg edit

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The result of the debate was: - Delete - in neither article is the image discussed (per Damiens.rf) - fials NFCC#8 - Peripitus (Talk) 09:26, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Malta Summit.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Lamato (notify | contribs).
  • Time magazine cover used in 2 articles, according to rationale, just because this is a very good and useful photo. Neither the magazine itself nor the photo are notable by themselves (and thus, not mentioned in the article). Instead, the event in the image is notable, and we're using Time's work because it fits our agenda. Damiens.rf 15:19, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - It has long been established that coverage by Time magazine (especially front coverage) is note-worthy with respect to the subject being covered. In the context of the time, the cover is extremely significant, especially with the choice of headline. It is also very suspicious that the nominator chose to say that "we're using Time's work because it fits our agenda", which implies in turn a personal disagreement beyond the policies of wikipedia. 82.36.75.12 (talk) 19:31, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Malta Summit article can certainly survive deletion of this image; however, it seems to me that use of this image fits perfectly within acceptable criteria for "fair use". In my view, it "shows the key persons behind the subject of this article, and how the event was depicted to the general public." The image shows the two protagonists, Bush and Gorbachev, while Time's choice of headline illustrates how the Summit was depicted to the general public. lamato(talk) 20:52, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Image:Maharishi Mahesh Yogi 2.jpg edit

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The result of the debate was: - Delete - per WP:NFCC#8 - copyright images used in articles must significantly increase reader's understanding. In general this requires that the image itself be discussed in sourced commentary or that the image is the subject of the article or that the image is in some way required in an irreplaceable fashion for good understanding of the subject....no assertion either in the image, article or below on how this is the case - Peripitus (Talk) 09:30, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Maharishi Mahesh Yogi 2.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Nima Baghaei (notify | contribs).
  • Eye candy Time magazine cove used just to illustrate the phrase "In October 1975, Maharishi was pictured on the front cover of the US magazine Time" Damiens.rf 15:21, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral -- I guess I'm okay either way, but I would think that anyone arguing to delete would need to find fault with the fair-use rationale, rather than just stipulating that it's eye candy. I don't see a problem with articles being attractive. TimidGuy (talk) 16:02, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    The problem is with using non-free content to make articles attractive. --Damiens.rf 16:19, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I see. Good point. TimidGuy (talk) 16:24, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In the case of the articles in question here, free content seems to be available, and hence this is a valid point. However it must be remembered that an encyclopaedia exists for its readers, which on the whole are unlikely to understand the licensing issue and only see, from their perspective, the destruction of article quality, when no alternative images have been sourced. 82.36.75.12 (talk) 19:41, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: I suggest this photo be added to the Category:Fair use TIME magazine covers. The photo is in reference to the article and relates to the article's statement inferring that he became as influential and as well known to a point that rivaled world leaders that regularly grace the cover of Time magazine. The photo adds context. It is not being used to represent the person's image. It is historically significant marking a chapter in the person's life, and in the cultural life of the USA during the mid-1970's. It supports the biography and helps readers to understand the notability of the biographical topic, during the height of his notability which was over a generation ago. Low resolution photos of magazine covers are considered to be covered under fair use. There is little or no justification to delete. It's a good addition to the article. VictorC (talk) 16:14, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Image:Khan cover - Time magazine.jpg edit

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The result of the debate was: - Delete - no arguments below, on the image page or in the article to show how the image meets WP:NFCC#8 - significantly increasing reader's understanding. That it illustrates what it pupports to is the entire point of Time's art dept and a credit to them. We need a compelling reason to host this copyright image - Peripitus (Talk) 09:35, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Khan cover - Time magazine.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Fastfission (notify | contribs).
  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover used in an article that does not talks about this image nor about this magazine. Damiens.rf 15:22, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral, tending to weak keep - Many other images seem to exist, however the magazine cover does lend a certain weight to the commentary on his cultural impact, the headline in particular establishes him as being seen as a "dangerous man". Suggest that the article itself is edited to work this information in, and then reconsider delete. 82.36.75.12 (talk) 19:46, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Illustrates very clearly the US reaction to this person. Could be referred to easily in the text. Is not just "eye candy" and using a very-low res cover of a well-known magazine for this purpose is well within the bounds of fair use. Magazine covers are considered pretty safe fair use (low res, doesn't deprive from future income, magazine themselves make them freely available anyway, nobody has ever complained, are a recognized way of showing cultural impact), I'm not sure why you're making a little crusade against them at just this moment. --Fastfission (talk) 19:22, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Image:LeaderTIME.jpg edit

Image:LeaderTIME.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Darth Kalwejt (notify | contribs).
  • Time magazine cover used to illustrate a biography infobox Damiens.rf 15:23, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep until free replacement sourced - deletion before free replacement would damage article. Text on cover actually implies that his photograph was chosen simply for looking good, rather than because he himself was somehow important. 82.36.75.12 (talk) 19:50, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Margaret-1951.jpg edit

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The result of the debate was: - Delete - helpful, useful or reinforcing another part of the article is not enough here to satisfy the "significantly increase reader's understanding" part of WP:NFCC#8 - Peripitus (Talk) 09:51, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Margaret-1951.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Americasroof (notify | contribs).
  • Eye-candy time magazine cover used in an article with just a trivial mention about its publication: "...the February 26, 1951 cover of Time Magazine carried her image with a single musical note floating by her head" Damiens.rf 15:26, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Her major pop-culture status of the time is reinforced by this cover 82.36.75.12 (talk) 19:53, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep If used to describe the celebrity stirred up by her singing career during her father's time as president of the US it is acceptable fair use and helpful to readers. Gwen Gale (talk) 18:48, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Image:Marichal-time.jpg edit

Image:Marichal-time.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Never been to spain (notify | contribs).
  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover has no rationale explaining why is it supposed to be used in an article that does not mentions the image neither the magazine. Damiens.rf 15:28, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - The mention by Time magazine is important, so it is very strange indeed that no mention of the coverage is made at all in the article. It implies that the baseball player was culturally significant, yet the article itself talks only in terms of baseball stats and not wider press coverage. My instincts say weak delete, however we need to encourage people in the know to enhance this article, as something seems to be amiss. 82.36.75.12 (talk) 19:59, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Parenttime.jpg edit

Image:Parenttime.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Sparkhurst (notify | contribs).
  • Time magazine cover used in 3 articles that fail to mention the image and the magazine. It's even used as the main picture of a BLP (despite the fact that we can't see the poor guy's face on the picture) Damiens.rf 15:31, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Mitsumasa Yonai on TIME cover 1937.jpg edit

Image:Mitsumasa Yonai on TIME cover 1937.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Insomniacpuppy (notify | contribs).
  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover is not event mentioned in the article. Damiens.rf 15:32, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: It might be appropriate to merge this IfD with the other cover. The fact that someone had two Time covers is itself rather significant, and so I believe that they shouldn't be considered in isolation. 82.36.75.12 (talk) 20:06, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Mitsumasa Yonai on TIME cover.jpg edit

Image:Mitsumasa Yonai on TIME cover.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Insomniacpuppy (notify | contribs).
  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover is not event mentioned in the article (outside of its own caption) Damiens.rf 15:32, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Paradorn Srichaphan TIME cover.jpg edit

Image:Paradorn Srichaphan TIME cover.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by NaiPiak (notify | contribs).
  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover is used in an article that only contains a trivial mention of the magazine's publication: "...and in 2003, Paradorn was featured on the cover of Time and featured as one of the year's "Asian heroes."" Damiens.rf 15:34, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Nabokov time may 23 1969.jpg edit

Image:Nabokov time may 23 1969.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Bwithh (notify | contribs).
  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover in an article that does not calls for such imagery. Damiens.rf 15:35, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:MillsTIME.jpg edit

Image:MillsTIME.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Darth Kalwejt (notify | contribs).
  • One more eye-candy Time cover. Damiens.rf 15:36, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Phil-murray-aug-4-1952.jpg edit

Image:Phil-murray-aug-4-1952.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Haus (notify | contribs).
  • Time cover used at a bio's infobox. Damiens.rf 15:37, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:TheGodGene.jpg edit

Image:TheGodGene.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Mateuszica (notify | contribs).
  • One more eye-candy Time cover (0 times mentioned in the article) Damiens.rf 15:38, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:SchiaparelliTime.jpg edit

Image:SchiaparelliTime.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by D C McJonathan (notify | contribs).
  • One more eye-candy Time cover (0 times mentioned in the article). Used in a bio's infobox. Damiens.rf 15:42, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Timeface.jpg edit

Image:Timeface.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Grandpafootsoldier (notify | contribs).
  • Eye-candy Time cover, used not because we're discussing the image or the magazine, but because it's incredibly convenient for us. Damiens.rf 15:44, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • it will be difficult to replace with a free equivalent, since this is the result of a computer simulation. We can't do such a simulation ourseleves (OR), and need to refer to Time Magazine's simulation instead. For this reason I find it arguable that it qualifies for fair use, provided its origin is clearly indentified in the article itself. --dab (𒁳) 15:30, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Time-mcgovern.jpg edit

Image:Time-mcgovern.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Americasroof (notify | contribs).
  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover image used in an article that makes just a trivial mention of the magazine publication. Damiens.rf 15:46, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Time-eagleton.jpg edit

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The result of the debate was: - Delete' - lack of commentary in any linked article about the image means that it fails NFCC#8. We don't use copyright images to signify other things - that can be covered in text alone. No clear arguments about how this image passes the NFCC requirements and currently it is orphaned - Peripitus (Talk) 01:06, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Time-eagleton.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Americasroof (notify | contribs).
  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover image used in an article that makes just a trivial mention of the magazine publication. Damiens.rf 15:46, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Keep - I don't think the Time magazine mention in this article is trivial; and even if that was the case, that doesn't qualify this image as eye-candy. This magazine cover, along with the other one highlights the media coverage from his selection as VP to his resignation. These images signify media coverage in general (Time being very popular) and not the instance of the magazine's media coverage. Saeed Jahed (talk) 08:21, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per the above. I believe this meets the NFCC criteria. There is no other possible way to demonstrate media coverage of Eagleton in his transition from VP nominee to being dumped other than using a copyrighted image or source. One image as representative of all media would be fine and because Time is popular this one would do the job. Let me know if you want the rationale fixed up. INTGAFW (talk) 01:43, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Image:Shriver-time.jpg edit

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  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover image used in an article that makes just a trivial mention of the magazine publication. Damiens.rf 15:47, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover image used in an article that makes no mention of the magazine publication. Damiens.rf 15:47, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover image used in an article that makes just a trivial mention of the magazine publication. Damiens.rf 15:48, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Keep - As mentioned previously, I don't think the Time magazine mention in this article is trivial; and even if that was the case, that doesn't qualify this image as eye-candy. This magazine cover, along with the other one highlights the media coverage from his selection as VP to his resignation. These images signify media coverage in general (Time being very popular) and not the instance of the magazine's media coverage. Saeed Jahed (talk) 08:22, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Fails WP:NFCC#8. There is no commentary in the article that supports the significance of the magazine cover. -Nv8200p talk 03:17, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover image used in an article that makes no mention of the magazine publication. Damiens.rf 15:48, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - It's in a large section of controversial remarks and actions and media responses to those actions. I am also alarmed by the nominator's apparent targetting of TIME covers with the same generic reasoning each time.Syferus (talk) 21:43, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And I got alarmed by the amount of unjustifed non-free images I found on that category. Other magazines following. Stay tunned. About your keep argument, what would prevent reader to understand such section while not seeing this image? --Damiens.rf 18:59, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Virtually any concept that can be understood from images can also be understood from text. This does not disqualify a non-free images from being used in articles. Covers from magazines such as Time, in most cases (and certainly in this case,) very importantly signify media coverage. Saeed Jahed (talk) 08:27, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover image used in two articles article that make no mention of the magazine publication. Damiens.rf 15:49, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Fails WP:NFCC#8. There was no commentary in the article to support that the image was significant. -Nv8200p talk 02:46, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover image used in an article that makes no mention of the magazine publication. Damiens.rf 15:51, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • This magazine cover shows the perception media at the time of the Waco conflict. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickyrintala (talk • contribs) 02:27, 9 November 2008 (UTC) This Image inaccurately implies that David Koresh is connected to the Seventh Day Adventist church. Mr Koresh' views in no way reflect/reflected the beliefs of the Seventh Day Adventist Church. by user Booksdoc[reply]
  • Keep - This magazine cover illustrates a theme in this section of the article which describes public perception of the Branch Davidian tragedy around that time. Unak78 (talk) 02:42, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • We can do that without non-free images. This picture is just a decoration for that section. --Damiens.rf 11:00, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Non free image with no fair use rationale given. Fails NFCC#1 and #8 IMO. Unusual? Quite TalkQu 11:54, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: delete. Fails WP:NFCC#8. There is no commentary in the article that makes the image significant to the article. -Nv8200p talk 02:51, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover image used in an article that makes just a trivial mention of the magazine publication. Damiens.rf 15:52, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - the image isn't used as eye-candy, it is used to illustrate the prominence and notoriety that the subject achieved by the incidents in which he was involved, including the cover of Time. It is being used congruent with its license. Wildhartlivie (talk) 20:03, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Maybe we could somehow convey this same information with freely licensed text only. Let me try: "Charles Whitman was born in 1941"... hmmm, didn't worked. Maybe "Charles Whitman is a prominent Russian writer"... no, no, still not there.... hmmm... what about "Charles Whitman was featured on the cover of Time Magazine". YES! Perfect! Voila! I'm a genius!!! --Damiens.rf 23:55, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Keep - The magazine cover is discussed in the article and a text of that discussion alone certainly does not convey the idea. Saeed Jahed (talk) 08:39, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover image used in an article that makes just a trivial mention about the magazine publication. Damiens.rf 15:53, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover image prominently featured in an article that makes just a trivial mention about the magazine publication. Damiens.rf 15:55, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I say keep the image -- it is certainly relevant to the specific event which is the main topic of the article in which it appears. I would also suggest that the image is fully attributed to Time Magazine by virtue of it being clearly identified as a Time Magazine cover. Furthermore, uses such as this are not commercial in nature. -TahoeBlue —Preceding unsigned comment added by TahoeBlue (talk • contribs) 07:09, 5 November 2008 (UTC) — TahoeBlue (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
  • Keep - very much relevant to the article, as it establishes the cultural importance of the riots. 82.36.75.12 (talk) 19:07, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • ...no more than the phrase "the riots were featured on the cover of Time...." --Damiens.rf 19:14, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Mike (talk) 19:30, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover image used in an article that makes no mention about the magazine publication. Damiens.rf 15:55, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Eye-candy Time magazine cover image used in 2 articles that make just a trivial mention about the magazine publication. Damiens.rf 15:57, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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  • It's a copyrighted image, done by Gibson to promote their guitars. It's clearly not a Creative Commons, and barely it would qualify for any fair use, as it's possible to replace it with free equivalent. GreyCat (talk) 17:53, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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