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February 14

Cite a musical recording

Hi Folks! How would you a cite a musicial recording. It is for The Aesthetics of Resistance, specifically this: [1]. Thanks. scope_creep^Talk 01:44, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

I found Cite AV media notes. Would there be anything else that would be suitable, for example citing classical music. Thanks. scope_creep^Talk 07:27, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

In the section heading, you refer to a musical recording. Then, in the OP, you link to a WorldCat web page (presumably about the recording). In your second post you name {{cite AV media note}}. That template is to be used when citing "print liner notes from albums, DVDs, CDs and similar audio-visual media."

What is it that you really want to cite? If the musical recording: {{cite av media}}; if the musical-recording liner notes: {{cite av media notes}}; if the Worldcat page: {{cite web}}.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 12:02, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@Trappist the monk: Those cites are really for physical recording. They're very generic and don't contain the fields that would typically need to be filled. I'm trying to find something that will cite the whole details of the symphony. I found this: {{Template:Cantata discography row}} which display a row in table. There must be a template that can cite a symphony name, who created it, the orchestra name, the conductor name, the label it was recording on, the leading people, recording date, what type of symphony it is e.g cantata, how many and names individual sections with in, the name of the choir, when and who commissioned it and so on. That must exist somewhere. This template comes close but seems to need the table to work. scope_creep^Talk 02:48, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@Scope creep if you include the OCLC number as a parameter in the AV media cite it will create a link to the Worldcat page which contains the details. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:23, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@Roger (Dodger67): Yip, I used oclc on other references regularly and put it in when I can, but the cite av media isn't suitable here. I found other articles that tend to put the raw text in, others for example on Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin, BWV 125#Recordings puts it all in table but surely they're must be a template that can use be used as a standalone entry, in for example a bullet list. I don't see anywhere on Wikipedia. I've checked a whole bundle of articles and its either the table or bulleted list of text. I'll really don't think either is suitable, dumping a big table on relatively small article or using standalone text unformatted on each bullet isn't suitable either. Cite av doesn't have the ramge to record all the information that needs to be records. It is the wrong template. scope_creep^Talk 10:18, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

So you aren't actually attempting to cite something that will end up in the article's §References section. Rather you want add an item to some sort of list. I don't know of any such templates that aid that. Have you asked at WP:WPMU?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 12:31, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@Trappist the monk: I never thought about that, actually. That is a good idea. scope_creep^Talk 13:24, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Query regarding wikipedia usage

Hey, I'm new to wikipedia and I want to know how to search for the files I need. It'd be great if you can help. Thankyou :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:6B0:2A:C280:686D:A36D:E91:738C (talk) 02:05, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Query regardingHey, I'm new to wikipedia and I want to know how to search for the files I need. It'd be great if you can help. Thankyou :) wikipedia usage — Preceding unsigned comment added by Testuser73537 (talk • contribs) 02:42, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@Testuser73537: Hey! You can attempt to search for files like you would for any article in the top right, but put File: before what you want to search for. Alternatively, you can look at image categories, either here or on Wikipedia Commons. Hope this helps! Skarmory (talk • contribs) 03:30, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Que Re: Finding relevant matter

Hey, I'm new here and I want to know how to search for what I want. Can someone help? Thank you :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Testuser73537 (talk • contribs) 02:59, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

You may use the search bar at the top of the screen to search for a topic or article you are interested in. 331dot (talk) 03:05, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Where to request a copy of a deleted article?

I am aware that some Administrators are willing to provide copies of deleted pages. Is it advisable to make such a request on the Admins' talk pages? NotReallySoroka (talk) 06:06, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

See WP:REFUND. It's usually a request on the closers talk, and bare in mind it depends on why it was deleted if it would be returned. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 07:57, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, Lee Vilenski, but I only need the copy of the deleted page for myself. NotReallySoroka (talk) 09:16, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

That is the process for recovering deleted articles. Most would put this into a draft or userspace on request. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:19, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

I'd like to upload some images which are PD in the US, but copyrighted in Australia.

There's a category on Commons for Norman Lindsay's works. (commons:Category:Works_by_Norman_Lindsay.) He was Australian and died in 1969, so his works are not in the public domain in Australia (unless they were works-for-hire or made for the government). However, I found this exhibition catalog from 1923, which, by publication date, is in the public domain in the United States, though not in Australia, as I understand it. I think I can I upload this to the English Wikipedia (given commons:COM:URAA and commons:COM:HIRTLE. Is there a way I can add a note or metadata to say that it will be out of copyright in 2040, and should be moved to Commons then? Which copyright tags do I use? Is {{PD-US-expired-abroad|2040}} correct here? grendel|khan 07:01, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

I think you are correct and the tag you suggest is all that is required. I'm surprised the template doesn't provide for saying for which country the copyright continues. So far as I know there are no country templates for such in-copyright files but I'd like to be proved wrong. However, you can state the country somewhere in the file description, as I'm sure you will. Our content guideline is at WP:Non-U.S. copyrights. Thincat (talk) 11:41, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Issue with my Wikipedia page

Hello there, I am the owner of a Wikipedia page, under my name, Narges Ranjbar Sari. I’m former athlete of the Iranian national team in two disciplines of taekwondo and shooting and one of the few Iranian women athletes who succeeded in wearing two completely different disciplines wearing the national team jersey. My name is registered in both the World Taekwondo and Shooting Federations as Iran's representative in international competitions. As well as the few international positions I have gained over the years. I posted all this content on my Wikipedia page and now domestic and foreign news agencies, but unfortunately, due to uncertainty, this content is not accepted by Wikipedia. I would like to ask you if you can help me.

Thank you Best regards

Narges Ranjbar Sari

Narges Ranjbar Sari (talk) 07:03, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

This is regarding Draft:Narges Ranjbar Sari. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:22, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Narges Ranjbar Sari I think that you mean that you are the subject of a Wikipedia draft, not the owner of it. No one owns any Wikipedia content, it belongs to Wikipedia. Be aware that while not forbidden, writing about yourself is highly discouraged, please read the autobiography policy. You have provided sources to document your significant sporting career, but you must provide sources that discuss you personally and not just tell us that you were on the team and what you did. Please read Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 11:04, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

New Article

Hi there, I am relatively new to Wikipedia and just wanted to check the contribution for 'Irish Pickers TV series' was submitted in the correct way?

Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Joyce1959&action=edit&section=3

Thanks in advance!

Joyce1959 (talk) 10:58, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@Joyce1959 No, it was not. You added it to the bottom of your user talk page, which is a place designed for people to leave comments for you. Draft articles should be in draft space. I would encourage you to copy it over there. Another problem with it is that your references are all clumped together at the end, rather than being properly located inline, next to the information they support. Once you've moved it to draft space and fixed the referencing issues, put the magic text {{subst:submit}} at the top of the draft and someone from articles for creation will come along and review it. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 15:37, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

New to wikipedia

I have done my research on Meethaas and would like to write about it here. Please advice further. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meethaas (talk • contribs) 11:40, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Meethaas Wikipedia is not for posting original research. 331dot (talk) 11:42, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

If Meethaas, whatever that is, meets the demands of WP:GNG, you'll find advice at WP:YFA. If not, you can't write about Meethas on Wikipedia. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:00, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Apparently it's a sweet shop in Haryana. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:06, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

That could be it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:17, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

How to move a submitted draft to mainspace

Hi, I had already submitted a draft for review. In the mean time, I have also contributed more than 10 times.

Can I now move/ publish the page in the mainspace and how? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjanapgs (talk • contribs) 12:49, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

I've done some minor edits to the pages. You can move to mainspace, although I am concerned that this person has just been involved in a series of things, rather than being particularly notable themselves. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:04, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Question asked and answered at the Teahouse. Please do not cross post.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 13:14, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

I would like to delete my profile permanently

Delete my profile — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pickaxe2020 (talk • contribs) 15:48, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't have "profiles". You have an "account", whose only edit is this question. Accounts can't be deleted, but you can simply abandon it. See also WP:Retired. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:01, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Pickaxe2020 Since you created your account today, I assume you are referring to an article about yourself(Wikipedia does not have "profiles") and not your account. It would help to know who you are and/or the article involved in order to give you the best answer. 331dot (talk) 16:04, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Further information would be very helpful. While you did create an account today, might you have an older account to which you refer? If so, WP:RETIRE might help. If you have an old account and desire to begin anew, perhaps WP:CLEANSTART would be helpful.Hu Nhu (talk) 20:37, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

I think by "profile" the user is referring to an article, a common error as many consider Wikipedia no different than social media. 331dot (talk) 21:17, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

...and assume that said "profile" is theirs to edit or delete. --ColinFine (talk) 22:25, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Publication cost of an article published in EUROPEAN JOURNAL OF PHARMACOLOGY

Dear Editor

May I know the Publication cost of an article in your Journal.

Regards, Dr. Shoeb — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.91.25.38 (talk) 15:48, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

This is the Help Desk for Wikipedia, not for the journal you mention. Please communicate with them directly to make inquiries. 331dot (talk) 16:00, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Try their website:European Journal of Pharmacology Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:24, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Question.

So, was Jawico666 banned on Wikipedia? Or was it just Wikimedia Commons, because I happen to like know him uhh yeah. Jawico665 (talk) 20:21, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Special:CentralAuth/Jawico666 is blocked on Wikimedia Commons, but nowhere else. Victor Schmidt (talk) 21:42, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Okay, I was just curios about that have a nice day! Jawico665 (talk) 21:52, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Purely for information, Jawico665, Wikipedia bans are on a person, not merely an account, so if, hypothetically, an account holder banned on Wikimedia Commons was to create another account and edit on Commons with it (or if they did so as an IP), and if this was detected, that second account would also be banned and the person might be further sanctioned for sockpuppetry. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.193.130.191 (talk) 08:56, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks but umm, I think I'll be staying away from commons, somebody impersonated me. Jawico665 (talk) 16:31, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Yay, I finally have my account back. The Person who hacked me did a pretty bad job, they didn't even change the password. Jawico666 (talk) 16:48, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

FYI

Now blocked as a sock here as well as Commons. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:37, 16 February 2022 (UTC)