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September 1

Albert Kitson, 2nd Baron Airedale

I have added - and failed - a book in the "Further reading" section at the end of this article. Please repair if able. 49.188.142.55 (talk) 00:35, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

 Fixed (also the previous, and subsequently deleted, request to add a link). Eagleash (talk) 00:41, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

How should a list of princes look like?

Thanks.--Mr. Boston (talk) 01:44, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

List of kings of Sparta will give you a good idea. Lourdes 03:23, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

The list is used within an article to present information. Have a look at this example.--Mr. Boston (talk) 10:58, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

The example seems fine by me. Lourdes 11:17, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. Have a nice day!--Mr. Boston (talk) 11:21, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

RfC

There is a long ongoing dispute on a section in an article's talk page. I want to open a RfC, should it be on the same section or a new one? Tarook97 (talk) 03:04, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Hello Tarook97, which article might you be referring to? That'll give context to the responses here. Warmly. Lourdes 03:20, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

The article is Moors and the section the dispute is going on is Lead. Tarook97 (talk) 03:21, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

• My opinion; start an Rfc in a new section. Word the question neutrally. Read WP:RFC before all that. Write back if something's not clear. Lourdes 03:25, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Disputed image license?

What's the policy to dispute an image license?

File:Man wearing a blue thong at the Beach 06.jpg has been uploaded by Beachooo as their own work, but it's exactly the same image that was uploaded by (and has since been deleted) Welldo321. Given the nature of the two editors history, it's possible that they're one and the same - or maybe just have a vested interest in thongs, but either way - the image cannot be original work by both editors...

It's currently used on the Thong (clothing) - where the previous iteration was also constantly added (and removed). Chaheel Riens (talk) 08:00, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Chaheel Riens the file is hosted on Commons. See their deletion policy at c:Commons:Deletion policy. Obviously a copyright violation if the second uploader claims that its their own work. Tag it on Commons with {{SD|F1|optional explanation here preferably with a link to the original upload}}. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 14:40, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

My Privacy

Dear Helpdesk,

I would like to know how I can hide or delete my history on view history from other users viewing the history as this should be an option available for any individual to have, as per one's privacy on wikipedia. There should be a delete history option.

Thanks,

Kind Regartds, Neil. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neil Patterson (talk • contribs)

You can't. I'm sure somebody will come along with a more technical response, but all edits (unless suppressed by oversight) are visible, and that's one of the core tenets of Wikipedia - it's transparent. If you want privacy, don't edit a public website.

Why would you not want your edit history to be visible? There are precedents where you can have an additional account Alternative account where you may be able to justify not linking it to your primary account - notification, see where it says "Except when doing so would defeat the purpose of having a legitimate alternative account" but you should think carefully before going down such a path - for reasons outlined in the same article. Chaheel Riens (talk) 09:30, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

• Hello Neil. While you cannot hide the history of any page in your user space, you can request any administrator to delete any page in your user space (except the talk page; see WP:DELTALK for the reasons), which will result in the history of the said page also getting deleted. Once deleted, only administrators would be able to view the deleted history and no other editor. To request deletion of any page in your user space, except the talk page, paste the template {{Db-u1}} on top of the relevant page. If something's not clear, do write back. Thanks. Lourdes 09:35, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

• There also exists Wikipedia:Courtesy vanishing, which is abandoning and renaming your user account. 2001:2003:54FA:2751:0:0:0:1 (talk) 14:32, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

Editing Mobius Motors Information

Mobius Motors (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

We have been trying to edit the Wikipedia page for Mobius Motors and requesting assistance on the following: 1. We made some changes on the wikipedia page on 29th August 2017 and they were accepted, however, they were not effected as the page still shows the old information. Some media houses are picking up on wrong information and we would like them to report something credible 2. The image we uploaded was a jpeg image taken by our photographer, which was rejected and the text box said that we need to show that the image was taken by a camera — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joy.M (talk • contribs) 12:35, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

@Joy.M: Hello, there are several problems here. Your edits have been removed by other editors as they are not encyclopedic in tone &/or appear promotional. Adding content referring to "our" product etc. is not going to be accepted by Wikipedia. You also have a connection to the subject and should not edit the article directly but request that changes be made at the article talk page (link at top left of article page). You should also read WP:COI and WP:PAID and make the appropriate disclosures. This is not something that is optional, you must do this to contribute to the page. Wikipedia relies on what has been written about the subject in independent third party reliable sources and it does not have much interest (if any) in what a company has to say about itself. Further, a Wikipedia account can only be used by one person, shared accounts are not acceptable but it's noted you use the plural 'we'. As far as images are concerned, the best way to upload is probably via commons. (Click contriutions, then uploads and then the link in the first line to Wikipedia commons). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 12:58, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Ever appropriate to do "Random Order"?

DePaul University had a note that the Fraternities and Sororities were listed in Random Order. I went ahead and alphabetized them and deleted the note, is it ever appropriate to deliberately list something in an article randomly?Naraht (talk) 16:06, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

For random order, we would need to know the algorithm used to produce the pseudo-random order, and the process is open to manipulation. I support your change. Dbfirs 16:27, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Thank You. I believe I've actually seen four orderings for Fraternities/Sororities/etc. By the English sort of the spelled out Greek Letters (So Alpha first, Zeta last), by the Greek Letters themselves (so Alpha first, Omega last), but the national founding date and by the founding date on the particular college that the greek letter organizations are on. I'm fine with all of these and won't reorder them.Naraht (talk) 01:29, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Picture appearing in wrong place

I added the picture 'Crown Inn, Shorwell, IW, UK.jpg' to article Shorwell, and it is supposed to appear in the 'Features' section, next to the place where the pub is mentioned in the text, but instead it is appearing right at the bottom of the article. Does anyone know why this is happening and how to fix it? Mypix (talk) 20:17, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

It won't appear on the right until lower than the bottom of the infobox. You could put it on the left and it would appear at the vertical level you want. RJFJR (talk) 20:19, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

It is on the left, and it doesn't. Maproom (talk) 20:26, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Sorry. You're correct. It does seem to have something to do with the length of the infobox. Not sure how to get around this. RJFJR (talk) 20:39, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

The cottage picture is first in the page code, so the page waits until it's been able to place that before placing the pub photo. Swapping their order in the page will fix it, but... that will result in a text sandwich, and the guidelines say that should be avoided. - X201 (talk) 20:41, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Fixed with {{stack}}.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 21:01, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Concerning RfC

Hello, am I allowed to invite a user on their talk page to participate in an RfC? Tarook97 (talk) 20:50, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Yes, as long as you are not choosing the editor because of their position of supporting the RFC or not. See WP:APPNOTE for guidance on this. RudolfRed (talk) 00:50, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Bot to create lists of articles with assessment and page view info?

Is there a bot where I can give it a list of articles and have it produce something like this? There are several more hypothetical lists like this that would be useful for me to have, but I'd prefer to spend my time working on articles and let a bot deal with the lists rather then spend hours creating the lists manually. Thanks, CJK09 (talk) 21:00, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Hello, CJK09. Yes there is: Community Tech bot. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 11:07, 3 September 2017 (UTC)