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Houthis (fictional and satirical flags)

• Houthi Army flag (fictional)
  Houthi Army flag (fictional)
• Houthi Navy flag (fictional)
  Houthi Navy flag (fictional)
• Houthi Air Force flag (fictional)
  Houthi Air Force flag (fictional)

Article(s)

Request

Can you add the portraits of the two leaders (https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/I/m/Abdulmalik_Alhouthi_by_Mbazri.jpg and https://www.akg-images.com/Docs/AKG/Media/TR3_WATERMARKED/0/8/3/6/AKG3837504.jpg) on this file? Thanks. For the fictional Houthi flags, can you change the date to "6.18".-- RainbowSilver2ndBackup (talk) 05:11, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Discussion

@RainbowSilver2ndBackup: All of the three images (you created) aren't sourced or fictional and promotes your POV .--SharabSalam (talk) 11:33, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Look at the the title of these files. RainbowSilver2ndBackup (talk) 18:21, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

@RainbowSilver2ndBackup: all of three images have been nominated for deletion. If you make the North Korean leaders propaganda on Houthis I will report you to admins for trying to push a POV. Thanks.--SharabSalam (talk) 18:47, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

I made them just for satire, just don't take them seriously. RainbowSilver2ndBackup (talk) 18:56, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

RainbowSilver2ndBackup

1- I am not taking anything seriously (until now).

2- I have asked in wiki commons if this type of "satir" is allowed in wiki commons considering that it is pushing a POV and that there is no education purpose behind it and the next reply was that the images are nominated for deletion(it's not even me who nominated). It is not a satir it's called propaganda.

3- You have just put the "satirical political" category right now.

4- The Houthi leaders "meme"(I should say) that you are trying to make WHY you didn't say it's a fictional?

It's is so clear that you are pushing a POV considering your latest edits as well. (not the first time to target Houthi-related articles with biased POVs) --SharabSalam (talk) 19:28, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

PNG renderer doesn't handle the coloring order correctly

Case in point: File:Metric system adoption map.svg – Antarctica (and other small uninhabited territories that belong to the class "antxx" defined in the SVG file) gets rendered in gray when SVG is previewed directly by either Inkscape or a browser, but the renderer renders them green. Can someone look into this and possibly fix the PNG renderer? cherkash (talk) 03:12, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Update: the latest revision I uploaded seems to work – but this doesn't take away from the problem. It's just a workaround. So if you troubleshoot this issue, please take a look at one (or both) of the two previous editions that were rendering incorrectly. The changes between the revisions are trivial (they are hand-edited) – so it should be easy to see the changes to localize what's going on. cherkash (talk) 03:22, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

@Cherkash: I have had this issue in the past. I wish I knew enough to comb through the code and find out exactly what causes this, but alas, I can't. The workaround that I use is to copy-and-paste the entire image to a new document. I've tested it on the file you listed (I used the file from "02:40, 11 February 2019"). Let me know if it renders properly on your end. Pbroks13 (talk) 03:57, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Pbroks13: it did render properly, but the edits you made defeat the purpose of these series of files – i.e. to be easily editable by hand and to have a clean internal structure of the styles applied to the elements. So this doesn't quite solve the problem with the renderer... Actually, I had already forced the renderer to do what I needed (see my update to my initial posting above) – but it's the fact that the renderer doesn't behave consistently with other editors/viewers (and hence doesn't probably follow the standards) is what I'm trying to draw attention to here. Thanks for trying to help. cherkash (talk) 04:05, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

@Cherkash: I see. I'll go ahead and revert my edit. Also, just a heads up, there are a good bit of grey circles that have their opacity set to 0. Not sure if this was intentional. (I see that it is, now that I read the code) Sorry I couldn't be of more help; TilmannR seems quite knowledgeable on these kind of issues. Perhaps they could be of assistance. Pbroks13 (talk) 04:09, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

This inconsistency can be replicated with the following SVG:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="300" height="300">
  <style type="text/css">
    .red{fill:#f00;}
    .blue{fill:#08f;}
  </style>
  <rect width="100%" height="100%" class="blue red"/>
</svg>

Browsers render it as a blue square. The Commons SVG Checker renders it as a red square. Apparently browsers prioritize classes, which appear later in the CSS. Librsvg seems to prioritize classes, which appear later in the class attribute. In the world map's class attributes antxx came before landxx. Therefore antxx's grey fill was overwritten with landxx's green. Replacing all occurrences of antxx landxx with landxx antxx seems to fix that problem. TilmannR (talk) 15:28, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

@TilmannR: Do you know which is a correct behavior per the applicable standards? My hunch is that CSS ordering should take precedence: isn't that one of the main points of having CSS? I.e. abstraction of the elements styling from the elements description. cherkash (talk) 10:43, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

@Cherkash: Indeed. The W3C recommendation says "The last declaration in document order wins.", which is consistent with the behavior found in browsers. The Phabricator task for this issue is phab:T215815. TilmannR (talk) 15:29, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

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Moon named.

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Article(s)

Rings of Neptune

Request

S/2004 N 1 ---> Hippocamp. The moon has been named. -- ― Дрейгорич / Dreigorich Talk 21:04, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Discussion

@Дрейгорич:  Done. TilmannR (talk) 06:53, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

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Minor change to timeline diagram

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  The original .PNG file for reference
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  Vector image that needs modifying

Article(s)

Methodist Church of Great Britain

Request

This is a request for minor change. The original file shows a horizontal line indicating a merger between some of the Wesleyan Reformers and the United Methodist Free Churches in 1857; in the newer file this line has been mistakenly omitted, although the label to the right is present. Please add a line at the 1857 mark (as in the first file), preferably one that is a gradient from gold to green (as in first file, and similar to the effect at the top of the diagram). Changes can be made to the second file; a separate file is obviously not necessary. Thanks in advance. -- Hazhk (talk) 22:52, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Discussion

@Hazhk:  Done. TilmannR (talk) 23:53, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! --Hazhk (talk) 22:30, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

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[png2svg] Arms of Fiji, 1871

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  Arms of the Kingdom of Fiji
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  SVG

Article(s)

Coat of arms of Fiji, Kingdom of Fiji

Request

Would it be possible for someone to create an SVG version of the above coat of arms of the Kingdom of Fiji from 1871-1874? And for anyone who wants to undertake this, here's an old Fijian coin with said arms on it, in order to provide a better guide to the outline of the image. Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 20:14, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Discussion

 Request taken by Pbroks13 (talk) 15:57, 3 January 2019 (UTC).

@Snow Lion Fenian: Your thoughts? Pbroks13 (talk) 17:55, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

@Pbroks13: Very nice work, and thanks for taking the time to do this. Though while we're here, would it be possible to create a colourised SVG image of this alternate version of the 1871 Fijian Arms, as documented on this page here. It would presumably use the same colours as the one above, but obviously with different shapes and size dimensions for the various objects. Also, the page describes the crown in this case as resembling that of Louis XV. Sorry about this, it's just that I don't think it would hurt to have both versions of the Arms on Wikipedia, and I thought I might as well ask while we're still on the subject of it. But if you're not feeling up for it, I will declare this resolved either way. Thanks again. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 19:13, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

@Snow Lion Fenian: Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. The page mentions that it "reminds of the [[|File:Crown of Louis XV, Musée du Louvre, Paris October 2015.jpg|crown of King Louis XV]]," but the french crowns display a fleur de lis. Nothing I've seen has shown any Fijian emblem with a fleur de lis; for example, that coin displays a cross. I am just unsure on how the crown part of the arms should be. Are you able to clarify that for me? Thanks. Pbroks13 (talk) 16:37, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

@Pbroks13: Sorry for the delay. Honestly I'm not sure, I was merely going by what the article said. Yes, it is hard to make out whether the emblem on the crown from the article is supposed to be a cross or a fleur-de-lis, and I haven't seen any Fijian heraldry bearing a fleur-de-lis either, so I know it is a bit unusual for a Fijian arms to allegedly bear a French-style crown, but then again, the two sceptres in the Arms are said to be similar to those of Charles II and Mary of Modena, neither of which have anything to do with Fiji either. Hence the crown doesn't seem to be the only thing that Cakobau copied from European royalty when creating the arms. But if we're both unsure, would you prefer not to create such a file? Sorry about this. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 20:09, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

@Snow Lion Fenian: I don't mind making it; I've actually already made it. I just don't know which crown to use! It's up to you, just let me know. Perhaps some more digging into what "The Royal Fijian Crown" is is necessary. Pbroks13 (talk) 20:36, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

@Pbroks13: Well, there really doesn't seem to be any fixed version of the "Royal Fijian Crown" from the 1871-1874 time period, as proven with the differing examples of said crown displayed here and here. And according to the aforementioned article, no actual Fijian regalia ever existed physically in the 1870s, only for heraldic purposes. However, this photo of an old Fijian flag that I came across on the Fiji Museum website seems to show a crown with two red shapes that vaguely resemble fleur-de-lis. I know they only resemble them in a rather crude way (and that the crown doesn't look that much like the one on the arms in any other way either), but it does make me wonder if fleur-de-lis did indeed appear in Fijian heraldry at the time after all (even if it seems to have been completely copied from European royal symbols that don't have much to do with Fiji). So perhaps the Louis XV crown should be used after all? Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 18:36, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Flag of the Franco-Nunavois

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  Flag of the Franco-Nunavois
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Article(s)

List of Canadian flags

Request

Can you please vectorize the flag. -- RainbowSilver2ndBackup (talk) 21:54, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Discussion

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Flag of Manipur.

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  Flag of Manipur

Article(s)

Anglo-Manipur War

Request

Can you improve this? Thanks. -- RainbowSilver2ndBackup (talk) 19:17, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Discussion

 Done TilmannR (talk) 00:13, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

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Citizens (Ciudadanos) logo

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  Citizens (Ciudadanos) logo

Article(s)

Citizens (Spanish political party)

Request

This SVG logo has some issues, could you please fix them? Thanks.--Carnby (talk) 17:40, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Discussion

@Carnby: Do you mean that the holes in the letters are filled with white? "This SVG logo has some issues" is much too vague. TilmannR (talk) 17:51, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

@TilmannR: I opened it with Inkscape and there are some Bézier points that need to be moved. Besides there are also other partially hidden paths creating sorts of shades.--Carnby (talk) 18:09, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

@Carnby:  Done. TilmannR (talk) 18:22, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

@TilmannR: Thank you very much!--Carnby (talk) 19:20, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

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File:Pyramid_Scheme_Illegal_Map.svg

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  Pyramid Scheme legality map

Article(s)

Pyramid scheme

Request

Could someone please colour canada green, as it says on the page. (provided of course that the page is correct)

Discussion

@Username Needed: It is illegal in Canada (see here).  Done Pbroks13 (talk) 15:05, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

• It still looks the same and I do not see you in the file history. Did the upload go through? ^{[Username Needed]} 15:14, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

@Username Needed: Try clearing your cache (ctrl+F5). Pbroks13 (talk) 00:28, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

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Microstrip Butler matrix

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  Dimensioned Butler matrix in microstrip
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  SVG version
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  with annotated circuit blocks

Article(s)

Butler matrix, currently in draft here

Request

I need a new image based on this circuit. I'm expecting that the easiest way to do this is to create an entirely new svg. In any event, please don't overwrite the original file, I'm going to use both images in the article. The changes I need are as follows;

1. Remove all the annotation and dimensioning arrows leaving just the ciruit pattern
2. Fade the circuit pattern to background
3. Place a dotted-line rectangle around each circuit block
4. Add annotation inside each rectangle large enough and bold enough to be read in thumbnail view

The annotation required, roughly in layout of circuit blocks in diagram, is as follows,

                Delay
 Hybrid                    Hybrid
 coupler                   coupler
              Crossover
 Hybrid                    Hybrid
 coupler                   coupler
                Delay

Thanks-- SpinningSpark 11:18, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Discussion

@Spinningspark: Like this? TilmannR (talk) 13:55, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

That's good. It's also good that you have made it more dimensionally accurate than the original which was all over the place. But that has now drawn attention to the fact that the vertical sections of the delay elements are too wide. They should be 2.99, the same as the horizontal sections, and the corners should be exactly 45° going exactly half way through the corner like in this circuit. SpinningSpark 14:30, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

@Spinningspark:  Done. TilmannR (talk) 16:02, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. SpinningSpark 14:40, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Герб Псковской области.

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  Герб Псковской области
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  Coat of arms of Pskov Oblast.svg
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  Coat of Arms of Pskov Oblast.svg (file name too similar)

Article(s)

Pskov Oblast

Request

Vectorize it please. -- RainbowSilver2ndBackup (talk) 02:56, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Discussion

@RainbowSilver2ndBackup: Hi. Are we sure that this coat of arms is under CC-BY-SA 4.0 International? It's a highly unusual license for a coat of arms, which makes it look like the uploader just took the default license suggested by Commons. TilmannR (talk) 15:50, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

@RainbowSilver2ndBackup: During which time interval was the old coat of arms in use? I'd like to add that to its file name in order to distinguish it from the new one. TilmannR (talk) 16:06, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

@TilmannR: It was from 1995 til 2018 RainbowSilver2ndBackup (talk) 19:27, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

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Archaeological outline

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  Outline
• File:Https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1160862

Article(s)

Vale Royal Abbey

Request

Hullo all. Is there anyone who can do a thing like File:Layout Of Westminster Abby.svg—from this GL discussion (some time ago)—but for a different abbey? Many thanks! ——SerialNumber54129 18:43, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Discussion

@Serial Number 54129: I can help you but you will have to provide me with a source, can't see anything on your link and the image is not accurate enough to work from, thanks. Please ping me. --Goran tek-en (talk) 13:56, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

@Goran tek-en: That's great news, many thanks! Can I email it you, or do you have another way of sharing images? ——SerialNumber54129 14:11, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: You can email me or any other way you have access to. I will also need a link or other way to show the source. Also if it has any license on it, free or not. --Goran tek-en (talk) 15:25, 22 March 2019 (UTC) Request taken by Goran tek-en (talk) 15:25, 22 March 2019 (UTC).

@Serial Number 54129: Is this also correct? --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:23, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

@Goran tek-en: Yes, that's the one, although for my purposes the solid line for all walls will suffice. Do you think the other buildings would be possible too, or is that double the work? ——SerialNumber54129 17:43, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: The style of the lines we can decide later on, is it the Great House you mean? --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:54, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

​ You see the buildings to the south on the image you link to above? Them. If you reply to my email, I can attach the complete pic. The WP:EMAIL facility doesn't allow for attachments. In any case, if you want to just stick with the church building itself, it'd still be cool. ——SerialNumber54129 18:13, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: Do you know if the in red encircled shape is round or a octagon? --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:10, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

@Goran tek-en: yes, they're (partial octogans). Cheers! ——SerialNumber54129 18:23, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: Draft for you to check. Give me feedback, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:39, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

@Goran tek-en: It's brilliant. Absolutely great. Just a couple of things, if it's OK. It doesn't face precisely east-west, it's more ESE. Here's an overlay (v rushed job on OSM, but still) which shows how your image fits snugly onto the real thing. It's incredibly accurate! Do you think you could put the nun's grave in, centred? I just stuck a red dot on  :)

also, do you thikn you could do the dotted lines as well? (in orange, but no need to dash them)—you see, that shows the cloister fitting in between the big house and the road. Is this possible? Sorry to ask for more, what you've aleady done is brilliant though! ——SerialNumber54129 18:33, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

::@Serial Number 54129: You should have told me it could be fond on OSM, send me the link and I will use that as it's probably more accurate than that old drawing. It's not a problem to add more or change anything. You know what is important so just tell me, send the link. --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:34, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: Sorry for above, I found it now and there is nothing.

New draft for you. I don't know if that icon for the grave is appropriate, if not just tell me and I will change. The lines you are talking about, I can see them but some or passing thru the chapel so tell me exactly which. Do you want the road as well? --Goran tek-en (talk) 20:15, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: Draft-2.

• I have made some changes to the house when I saw the better image.
  
• I would like to get a link or name of book, author, page that the better image comes from.
  
• I have changed the north-rose to what I think is a more correct angel.
  
• The house has opacity on it so that the cloister is visible thru it. I guessed that the house of today is not as important as the others, if I'm wrong tell me which you want to be most visible.
  
• Due to the opacity this means that if the file is put on top of any color or else that will be visible to some degree thru it. We can avoid that by putting a white (or other) background on the hole file, tell me what you think, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 15:26, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

• @Goran tek-en: Bloody brilliant. Great stuff! I was going to put it over OSM, but it's far too good for that; I'l use the switcher template and keep the broader map separate. all your changes are good, thanks—and yes, the cloister, etc, is more important than the house, so fading it was a good idea. The provenance of the image is as follows:
  Turner, R. C. & McNeil-Sale, R., 'An Architectural and Topographical Study of Vale Royal Abbey', Journal of the Chester Archaeological Society 70 (1988), pp. 51-79 (fig. 3).
  Nice work! Cheers, ——SerialNumber54129 16:13, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: I will need the following;

• Name of the file
• Description
• Category/ies at commons to be able to upload it at commons. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:08, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

• @Goran tek-en:
  Archaeological geography of Vale Royal Abbey, Cheshire
  Foundations of Vale Royal Abbey and its outbuildings as excavated in 1911, 1958 and 1988, indicating its proximity to the modern-day building built on Abbey land in the 16th century.
  Vale Royal Abbey, Monasteries in Cheshire, Cistercian monasteries established in the 1200s, Grade II listed buildings in Cheshire
• Is that OK? ——SerialNumber54129 18:29, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: Now you can find it here Commons:file:Archaeological geography of Vale Royal Abbey, Cheshire.svg. If you are happy with this please put the code {{tl|resolved|1=~~~~}} on this request so it can be archived, thanks.  Done --Goran tek-en (talk) 13:08, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Colonial flags of Sierra Leone, 1914-1961

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  Blank Blue Ensign
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  Blank Governor's flag

Article(s)

Flag of Sierra Leone, List of colonial governors of Sierra Leone

Request

Would someone please create an SVG file of the 1914-1961 flag of Sierra Leone (as seen here) using the blank Blue Ensign provided above, and also an SVG file of the flag used by the Governor of Sierra Leone during the same period (as seen here), using the blank British Governor's flag provided above. A close up of the badge used on both flags can be seen here, if it helps. Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 16:09, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Discussion