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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list removal nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was removed by NapHit 15:52, 22 September 2012 [1].

List of ice hockey teams in Saskatchewan edit

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Notified: Resolute, WikiProject Ice Hockey, WikiProject Canada

I am nominating this for featured list removal because it's showing its age. Some quick pointers:

Someone may wanna double check this
  • En-dash should be used for year ranges, see WP:DASH.
  • Check dead links in the refs.
  • We no longer start with "This is a list...", the lead is rather weak.
  • Some tables are formatted differently from others (e.g. "zebra" striping in some). Why?
Removed striping Ravendrop 04:35, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Check refs, some publishers are referred to as works.
Not sure what this means. Ravendrop 09:19, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"works" (like publications such as The New York Times for instance) should be in italics while "publishers" (such as ESPN) shouldn't be. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:45, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Is a webpage (such as sjhl.ca or legendsofhockey.net a work or a publisher? If it's a work, I think I've fixed this problem.
Also updated total cups wins for all leagues. Removed Flin Flon from SJHL as it is based in Manitoba. Much like reasoning for why Lloydminster is included in the list. Ravendrop 09:19, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not huge issues, but certainly no longer our finest work. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:06, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

These changes should be straightforward enough (and would need to be echoed at the Alberta list), but I'll give a few days for others to weigh in. If the concerns do not rise to a significant degree, I'll set about fixing this. Cheers, Resolute 15:35, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Resolute, hopefully we can fix both lists at once. All the best. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:54, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'll help out on this one too. Don't like to see things delisted for such relatively simple needed corrections. Ravendrop 03:57, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Giants2008 (Talk) 21:09, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments –
  • The lead could stand to be increased to three more sizable paragraphs, as TRM hinted at.
I'm having trouble with this one. Any suggestions? Is saying x numbers of x cups (Avanet, Royal Bank, etc.) have been won by teams in Saskatchewan acceptable for the lead? Or is this something that the table covers adequately? Ravendrop 02:34, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It's perfectly fine to mention some items from the tables, such as number of cups won. In fact, that's best practice nowadays. Any unique or interesting facts like that are fair game. If you can turn what's currently there into three similarly sized paragraphs, you should be close to having a nice lead. Giants2008 (Talk) 20:12, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hyphen in the first sentence should be an en dash per MoS (assuming it is to be unspaced).
  • Apostrophe needed at end of Saskatoon Quakers.
  • In the Major Professional and Minor Professional headings, the second word of each should have its capitalization removed.
  • Alberta Junior Hockey League: This one entry surely doesn't need the sortability, with nothing to sort.
  • Also, in the note here a period is missing before refs 10 and 11.
  • Saskatchewan Junior Hockey League: In the Melvile Millionaires note, an apostrophe needs to follow the team's name.
  • Junior B and C leagues also don't need sorting. There are a couple of other leagues in the following section that also have one entry and don't need the sort function.
  • What is sourcing the Western Women's Hockey League section?
I have this link which (if you switch the drop down box through the seasons) shows that the Saskatchewan Prairie Ice played from 04-07. I'm not sure how to reference it though. Do I need to include each link? Ravendrop 04:37, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That's useable, but make sure to include a note in your citation that instructs readers how to verify the stats (by using the drop-down box). There's a format= parameter in the cite templates that handles items like this. Four separate links is fine, and may be easier for verification purposes. Giants2008 (Talk) 20:12, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Remove the space before the second usage of ref 20.
  • In the same table where the previous comment came from, decapitalize the second word of "Women's Titles".
  • League, regional and national championships: Second word of "Times Won" also needs decapitalization.
  • The one-sentence paragraphs are undesirable. Given that there are three larger paragraphs already in the lead, why not merge them into those larger paras?
    • Working on this (will not have time until next week). Ravendrop 06:09, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • In addition to the sites unstruck above, what makes Prohockeynews.com (ref 5) a reliable source?
    • Its an online news source for minor hockey. I have seen it quoted occasionaly in other new (unfortunately I can't find an example as of now). Additionally, as far as I can tell, it is not user edited, but the columnists/journalists are paid/screened before they are hired. Does this help? Or is there something I'm missing that makes in not RS? I'll look for alternative sources, though.Ravendrop 22:21, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • I'm uncertain on this one, and will leave it out for other reviewers to consider.
        • Couple more quick points: I don't think the en dashes are needed in the title of current ref 14 (hyphens will do here), and the pp. there and in refs 11, 13, and 15 should be p. instead, as single-page cites. These are picky, but style guidelines dictate that it is best if the changes are made. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:07, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment What's the status on this FLRC? Dabomb87 (talk) 15:27, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Still enough outstanding for me to hold my "delist". The Rambling Man (talk) 16:35, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • My most recent comments are still outstanding as well. It looks like the article hasn't been edited since I was last here. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:02, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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