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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list removal nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was kept by User:Sephiroth BCR 20:58, 29 November 2008 [1].

List of Namibia ODI cricketers

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Notified: WT:CRIC
Fails FL criterias 1, 2, and 3. Statistics are also out of date, as it has last been updated in 2005. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 23:32, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy remove ;) - Article lacks sources, needs more information, and is only updated through 2005. iMatthew 23:34, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: If it makes any difference, Namibia haven't played a One Day International game since 2005 - so the statistics are not out of date. Of course, we need to update the "year as of" statistic, but this is easy to do (should we alter this to 2008 or to {{currentyear}})?. Otherwise, what further introductory information should we include in the lead section? Any WP:CRIC members with ideas? Statswise, Howstat provides us with all the data we need - what further sources are necessary if they will simply duplicate the data already available without adding anything significant? Bobo. 01:26, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In-line references are prefered to a couple of links at the end of the article. Perhaps the lead could be expanded with a little about Namibia's ODI history (when they first played, why they haven't played since 2003). Since the most matches any player has played is 6, perhaps a note on the outcome of the series the team played (it can only be a handful). Also some notes on the captain(s). Other than that, I'm stumped. Nev1 (talk) 03:45, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
True enough about inline references - though once again, if we rely solely on Cricket Archive's stat machine, it would be the same reference repeated fifteen times. Perhaps linking through to Cricket Archive stats would reduce this redundancy. Bobo. 10:22, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What I'm doing with List of Irish ODI cricketers (a work in progress) is giving links to the record of each player, saving anyone reviewing the article thhe effort of trawling through more links than necessary to check the info. It's boring, but it's not particularly hard. I think the biggest problem is the lead, but I've made suggestions to expand it. I think in its current state, the article is not an FL, but it has potential to be salvaged IMO. Nev1 (talk) 18:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. I'm afraid that, like many of these old cricket lists, this one is heavy on the WP:STATS. The lead is rubbish. It should be about Namibian cricket, not about limited overs which the reader can find via a link. I won't vote yet because I don't know enough about this process but I think the nominator has got a point. --BlackJack | talk page 06:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've added some additional text to the lead. Is this the sort of thing that's needed? I'd appreciate it if someone could check it over. I can add inline citations fairly easily, but I'm not sure where they should go for the table. --Cherry blossom tree 22:19, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You could add a reference column to the table. Nev1 (talk) 18:31, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is it possible to notify additional interested parties, such as the original FLC nominator, and maybe the current two most active contributors? Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 05:14, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The FLC nominator hasn't edit Wikipedia since 2007, I already addressed to one of the current active contributors to this article, but the other one...well I didn't notifiy him... -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 06:20, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Artiticle is now fully referenced, the lead has been expanded. Does more need to be done, or does the article now satisfy the FL criteria? Nev1 (talk) 23:58, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know yet. Guess we'll just wait and see 18 days later. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 00:19, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment

Instead of the flag of Namibia, why not just put a image of one of the cricketers instead. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 00:19, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Because no free use images are available. Nev1 (talk) 00:19, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Then what's the point of putting the flag of Namibia? Just don't have the image on the article, since it is kind of useless. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 00:21, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see any harm in having the flag. The image is free, it makes the article look better, and it is related to the topic. I don't feel particularly strongly about it either way though, and I see your point. Nev1 (talk) 00:28, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Can you just removed the thumb part of the image. That'll be great. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 00:32, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Is this what you mean? Nev1 (talk) 00:35, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, thanks. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 00:37, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment
  • Starting the list with "This is a list of ..." is discouraged —Chris! ct 06:31, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Is this more to your liking? Nev1 (talk) 13:57, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Yes that is what I want—Chris! ct 01:49, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments by SatyrTN
  • Table should be sortable. "Batting", "Bowling", and "Fielding" should be move to "Key". Will also need to use {{sort}} for the "100/50" and "BB" columns, and {{sortname}} for the "Name" field.
  • Per previous commenters, the lede is a) not about Namibian ODI cricketers and needs to be re-written.
  • Weak Remove" until issues are resolved. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 22:20, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Remove - table is now sortable, though {{sortname}} and {{sort}} still need to be used so names will sort by last name. Lede still needs to be rewritten. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 18:13, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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