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Wikimedian of the Year edit

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Nominator(s): ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 12:24, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedian of the Year is awarded by Wikipedia's co-founder Jimmy Wales. The award honors major achievements within the Wikimedia movement. There have been 10 recipients. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 12:24, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support, Wikimedia movement and ideology needs to be promoted in all possible ways to attract more editors, this is one of the ways. --ssr (talk) 13:39, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:49, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
;Comments
  • "Date August 2011; 8 years ago [....]First awarded 2011" - any reason why these are both needed when they seem to both say the same thing?
  • "an Kazakh entrepreneur" => "a Kazakh entrepreneur"
  • it was awarded to Wikipedia editor named "Demmy"" => "it was awarded to a Wikipedia editor identified as "Demmy"" (we don't know that the editor is actually named Demmy)
  • "Ihor Kostenko, he actively promoted" => "Ihor Kostenko, who actively promoted"
  • "and he was killed during a protest." => "and was killed during a protest."
  • "After two years, the first joint recipients was awarded to" => "Two years later, the first joint award was presented to"
  • 2014 row - refs are not in correct numerical order
  • Also, there shouldn't be row breaks between refs in the same cell
  • "Farhad is a community-organizer" - no reason for that hyphen. Also, he should be referred to by his surname, not his forename
  • "Emna joined with several others" - she should be referred to by her surname
  • "and co-chairing Wikimania 2018's program committee" => "and co-chaired Wikimania 2018's program committee"
  • "For off-wiki activities including an editing campaign and youth camp." - not a complete sentence so should not have a full stop
  • "Created the Persian-language arm of the "Wikipedia Library". " - also not a complete sentence
  • "Established the "#100wikidays" contest, which challenges editors to create one Wikipedia article per day for one hundred days." - also not a complete sentence
  • "Nahid is instrumental" - should be referred to by his surname
  • "Started a year-long effort to put underrepresented scientists and engineers on Wikipedia." - also not a complete sentence
  • Think that's it from me. Quite a few (admittedly minor) issues, so I'm mildly surprised by the unconditional support !vote above...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:58, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Aza24 (talk) 20:52, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments from Aza24 - I'd love to support, I just have some minor comments first. - Aza24 (talk) 22:53, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • The info box:
    • "major achievements..." should surely be capitalized to "Major achievements" if you are capitalizing the first letter for the other information in the info box?
    • Perhaps "Formerly Called" should be "Former Name", since it didn't used to be called something different, it was named something different.
  • Recipients list:
    • Rémi Mathis:
      • Missing period.
      • Also maybe consider briefly elaborate on the situation - mention how he was the chairperson of the project Wikimedia France?
    • Farhad Fatkullin:
      • This part has kind of confused me. "He is a community organizer among Russia's minority languages communities, beyond his native Tatar language." Are you saying that he has done a lot of contributions to different wikipedias of Russia's minority languages, like Tatar. If so, what are the other languages? (Or is the "community organizer" role something thats outside of Wikipedia?)
      • What does the end of this section mean "wider movement after years of isolation?" Whose "years of isolation" are you referring to, Fatkullin's? The people who speak the languages that he advocated for? This section in general needs clarification.
      • The second line might sound better as "His fluency in English helped bridge communities and established a wider..."
    • Mizouni:
      • Why is it important that the organization is "non-governmental"? Are you referring to the fact the government of Tunisia owns most companies or is perhaps non-profit what you meant to say?
  • Honorable mentions
    • A lot of the entries need periods, please double check everyone.
    • Satdeep Gil: Link "Indic-language."
    • Mardetanha: "Arm" may be an odd word to use here.
    • Atanassova: Was this contest just on (or primarily) the Bulgarian Language wikipedia? Should mention and link if so.
    • Gómez: "Colombian student who has been prosecuted," change to "who was."
    • Sultan: What is OTRS? Was he managing Wikimedia accounts for the Bengali wikimedia?
  • References
    • Ref 1 Needs author
    • Ref 5 Needs author
    • Ref 12 (and 17) I would add Website=Youtube or something
    • Ref 14 Needs author
    • Ref 17 it looks like this one was a collabritive article by the people who run the cite, but consider putting "Science Alert Staff" as the author.
  • General
    • Not 100% about the linking rules on this (so I would look into it) but consider linking countries when you mention them.
    • I'm a little concerned about the mixing of past and present tense: For example for Temple-Wood and Stephenson-Goodknight you say "had created" and "had improved" but for Nartey you say "adds content" and "leads several initiatives." I don't think the former two editors have stopped editing, so these inconsistencies should be addressed, perhaps with general rephrasing of the lines "Nartey received the award for his addition of content about his home country, Ghana, and leading of several initiatives to promote the importance of editing Wikipedia. - Aza24 (talk) 22:53, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Aza24: - notes which are not complete sentences (e.g. most of the honorable mentions) do not need periods (WP:CAPFRAG) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:25, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi Aza24, I believe all of this is addressed except for the Formerly Called issue because I used "name= Wikipedian of the Year" and it renders as "Formerly Called". Thanks for the comments. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 17:09, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Looks great now! Im happy to support - Aza24 (talk) 20:52, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support - My concerns were addressed so I'm happy to support this list. Aza24 (talk) 20:52, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thoughts

  • The fact that the main article is titled "Winners of Wikipedia’s biggest award still haven’t received prize money" but it isn't mentioned it weird. This shouldn't be a puff piece and it feels like we are pulling our punches
  • WMF press releases aren't high quality sources
  • The Harvard Government School source is a press release
  • The youtube video should be a better source
  • A bunch of sources are missing bylines

I'm slightly unsure if this should redirect to Wikimania if we can't cite everything with secondary sources --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 13:31, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Strong Oppose on sourcing and NPOV grounds. This needs to be sourced to something better than PR blogs from the WMF, Russkiy Mir, and Creative Commons. Further there are still inconsistencies in the citations and tweets being used as citations. On the NPOV front, the lead is devoid of any criticism while relying on a piece titled titled "Winners of Wikipedia’s biggest award still haven’t received prize money." --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 18:44, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I only noted one thing:

  • "She started to creating articles to "better represent women and people of colour"." —-> That should be "started to create" or "started in order to create".

That’s about it. ~ HAL333 15:50, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from MWright96 (talk) 19:49, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
;Comments from MWright96
  • All images are lacking alt text per MOS:ALT
  • Done.
  • Ukrainan Wikipedia is missing a wikilink in the lead
  • Linked.
  • Émna Mizouni doesn't have an acute accent to begin her name
  • Fixed.
  • Wikilink government of Kazakhstan
  • Linked.
  • "Mathis, a chairman of Wikimédia France and the French Wikipedia administrator who received the honor for his role" - a comma is missing between "adminstrator" and "who"
  • Added.
  • Linked.
  • "and leading of several initiatives to promote the importance of editing Wikipedia." - the word "of" isn't needed
  • Removed.
  • "an editing campaign and youth camp, a project to help new editors in Armenia." - an editing campaign and youth camp project to aid new editors of Armenia.
  • Replaced.
  • "Mizouni joined with several others to found Carthagina, in 2013." - This is an almost word-to-word copy from the WMF reference. Please change the wording to correct this
  • Done.
  • "including the first WikiArabia conference," - inaugural
  • Replaced.
  • "She also joined the Affiliations Committee in 2016 and became its vice-chair in 2018." - This is a word-to-word copy from the WMF reference. Please alter the sentence to rectify this
  • Done.
  • "He was awarded for encouraging people at his university to edit the Punjabi Wikipedia made it the fastest-growing Indic-language Wikipedia that year." - to edit the Punjabi Wikipedia, making it
  • Done.
  • "Over 120 editors joined the contest and third of the editors have completed it." - maybe reword this sentence to avoid close repetition of the word "editors"
  • Done.
  • "like legislation that makes it almost impossible to get funding. He also serves the global community as a steward and OTRS, a team of volunteers who answer emails sent to Wikipedia, member and co-managed several social media accounts for the Wikimedia movement (e.g. FB Wikimedia Commons)." - Can't locate this information in the WMF source. You'll need to use or find another reliable source that backs up the information in this portion of text
  • Done.
  • "Wade, a physicist who started a year-long effort to put underrepresented scientists and engineers on Wikipedia." - This sentence would be better off rewritten without losing its intended meaning to pass WP:LIMITED
  • "She started to create articles to" - how about began to write articles to to avoid close parahrasing?
  • Replaced.
  • Reference 22 is missing the author
  • Added
  • The tage for Reference 24 needs to be addressed ASAP

Support - All my concerns have been addressed. MWright96 (talk) 19:49, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Guerillero: Us FLC closers could use some input on whether your objections have been addressed to your satisfaction. A couple of the sites you described as unreliable don't appear to be in the article at the moment, and the number of WMF sources has been reduced, if not eliminated (I count four). Giants2008 (Talk) 22:33, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support on sources Source review
This FLC is listed at the FLC page as needing a source review so here goes:

  • Ref 1 (The prize money article) states that in 2012 the award was named the "Jimbo award" so the award wasn't always called "Wikimedian of the Year".
They are referring to this. But it wasn't an official name.
  • Ref 2 (kyiv post) - that URL is not completely loading for me - perhaps it is an issue on my end but the linkage needs to be investigated.
It seems to be loading for me.
  • Ref 4/5: pass
  • Ref 3&6: are in languages I do not speak so AGF
  • Ref 7/8: pass
  • Ref 9: Is listed as a Cite web but shouldn't it be a Cite video? And the video itself lasts 15 minutes - is there a way to cite the specific timestamps that back up Ref 9?
Added a new source
  • Ref 10/11/12/13/14: pass
  • Ref 15: AGF, in a language I do not speak
  • Ref 16/17/18: pass
  • Ref 19: Is a link to a video and uses the cite web template. This should probably be a cite web and have time-stamps that deal directly with the information that is being backed up.
Added
  • Ref 20/21: pass
  • Ref 22: This link does not mention Wikimedian of the Year. It states the award was "Positive Wikimedian of the Year."
Added a new source
  • Ref 23/24: pass

Once the few issues mentioned above are dealt with or explained I will be able to Support on Source review. Shearonink (talk) 05:49, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support on sources. Shearonink (talk) 15:55, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Guerillero never came back, but it appears that their issues were addressed, so I'm going to go ahead and promote. --PresN 22:14, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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