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United States congressional delegations from Hawaii edit

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Nominator(s): theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 06:56, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I've been working on this page for a bit–taking after United States congressional delegations from Utah, I added language and citations, added photos by the lists, updated the tables to look nicer, added notes, and cleaned up/culled templates that didn't make sense anymore, and I think this fits the FL criteria now. This is my first FL nomination, so I am and always will be happy to take suggestions! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 06:56, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments
  • "meaning that each seat a class determining in which years the seat will be up for election" - think there's either some words missing or too many words here, as this doesn't make sense
  • At the start of the House of Representatives section, the exact same paragraph appears twice
  • "the first woman of color to serve in the United States Congress from any state" - source?
  • "Spark Masayuki Matsunaga" vs "Spark Matsunaga" - any reason for the variation in name?
  • That's all I got on a first pass - nice work! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:31, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude:  Done Changed the language on that sentence, deleted the extra paragraph, added a source (thanks to the article Patsy Mink for providing a ref to steal), and corrected the variation (it was preserved from the previous table)–thanks! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 22:12, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)
  • The tables needs a caption, e.g. at the top of the table code add "|+ <table_caption_text>" or, if that caption would duplicate a nearby header, you can make it only for screen reader software like "|+ {{sronly|<table_caption_text>}}". Captions allow screen reader software to jump to tables by name.
  • Column headers need to be marked with colscopes, e.g. "! colspan=2 | Class 1 senators" should be "!scope=col colspan=2 | Class 1 senators". Colscopes and Rowscopes (below) allow screen reader software to properly read out tables verbally.
  • The primary cell of each row should be marked with rowscopes, e.g. "| rowspan=9 | Hiram Fong (R)" should be "!scope=row rowspan=9 | Hiram Fong (R)" --PresN 02:54, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@PresN: I have been away from my computer for a while, but it appears all of these have been  Done by others in my absence. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 19:49, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@PresN: sorry, second ping here- what's happening with this nomination? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 06:50, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
FLC nominations need more reviewer attention than this before they can be closed; there seems to be a lull in activity this month, but I'd recommend reaching out to relevant wikiprojects and editors to see if anyone is willing to review the list. --PresN 14:00, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Kavyansh.Singh edit

Resolved comments, Image review and Source review from Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 18:11, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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I have seen this list listed here from almost a month without any review. Maybe I can help. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 12:21, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
And just to be clear, I made 2-3 edit in the article some weeks ago, but those were made just to address the accessibility review comments by PresN. With 1% authorship, I don't consider myself a major contributor of the list (and thus can review it). – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 14:12, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Image review
  • File:Hawaii Congressional Districts, 113th Congress.tif – The source link is dead. Probably replace it by this archived link
  • File:Hiram Fong.jpg – Source required
  • File:Daniel Inouye Official Photo 2009.jpg – Source link dead. Probably replace it with this link
  • File:Brian Schatz, official portrait, 113th Congress 2.jpg – Add this link as the source on commons.
  • File:Mazie Hirono, official portrait, 113th Congress.jpg – Everything looks fine here
  • File:Robert William Wilcox 1900.jpg – Everything looks fine here. Add link of the book/journal if you can find it.
     Done theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them)
  • File:Elizabethfarrington.jpg – Source required
  • File:John A. Burns 1966.jpg – Replace source link with this link.
  • File:Patsymink.jpg – I'm not sure about this, but the source doesn't has the exact same image.
    It looks like it's just a different background–I couldn't find the source for that exact image either, but it looks like the sources hold up regardless. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them)
  • File:Neil Abercrombie.jpg – Everything looks fine here.
  • File:Tulsi Gabbard by Gage Skidmore.jpg – Everything looks fine here.
  • File:Ed Case, official portrait, 116th Congress.jpg – Add the source link for this image.

@Theleekycauldron – Ping me whenever you have addressed those issues. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 12:21, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kavyansh.Singh: I wasn't sure what to about Patsy Mink's image either, but everything else seems to be  Done! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 18:41, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Source review

Version reviewed — 1

Formatting
I appreciate you making the clip. :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them)
  • Ref 10 - Although not necessary, I suggest adding this link to "U.S. Const. Art. I, § 2".
  • Ref 11 - Add link to American Factfinder
  • Ref 12 - Source link has 404 error. Please check, and add link to Hawaii State Capitol.
  • Ref 13 - Source link stated that the document was released on November 15, 1960.
  • Ref 14 - Add link to Democrats.org. Also, Washington D.C. is the only location with citation in the article. you may wish to remove to for maintaining consistency.
  • Ref 15 - Spell out date
  • Ref 17 - Add link to Associated Press, spell out date, and add url access level = "subscription".
  • Ref 18 - Spell out date, and add link to NPR.
  • Ref 19 - Spell out date, and add url access level = "subscription".
  • Ref 20 - Add link to NPR, and add January 5, 2010 as source date.
  • Ref 21 - Add July 21, 2016 as Source date, and link NBC

@theleekycauldron – Sorry for the long list of quibbles, but these are just minor errors, which can easily be fixed. Ping me whenever you fixed these, so that I can proceed with the Reliability and review. I suggest adding links to all the news organizations/newspapers/websites,etc. Also, archive all the citation links through this tool. Thanks! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 16:24, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed the citations! No problem on the nitpicks- i'll update when I've added image sources. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 17:35, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Reliability
  • No issues. All sources seem to be from reliable sources.
Verifiability

Overall the verifiability looks fine, but I would still prefer a citation for the following statements.

  • Since Hawaii became a U.S. state in 1959,....
  • The current dean of the Hawaii delegation is Mazie Hirono,....
    Couldn't find a good source for this, curiously enough–i'll go digging around more but it's strange. Sources on deans of delegations seem to be few and far in between. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them)
  • The first delegate, Robert William Wilcox,....
    Everything else should be  Done
General comments
  • Add Alt text for all the images.
    There appears to be no images lacking alt text that aren't purely decorative.
  • Maybe it would be informative to add that Patsy Mink was the first East Asian-American woman to seek the presidential nomination of the Democratic Party. (Source)
    Insider seems like a biiiit too shaky of a source for me, but I'm not rigid on that one. Also, Mink's caption is pretty length already–I think its best to leave as is.
  • In my opinion, there should be a "See also" section, however, it's completely upto you and is not a big deal.
    Added!
  • The images from Congress seems to be correctly licenced, however, I still doubt Patcy Mink's image. Maybe you can replace it with this image
    Switched!

@theleekycauldron – Apart from those minor issues, great work overall! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 09:27, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kavyansh.Singh: thanks so much! I changed most of it- I couldn't find a source for Hirono's deanship and didn't think the line about Mink should be added. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 00:38, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Theleekycauldron – That's fine. I have made an edit to add some links. In my opinion, all the major issues have been resolved. The only issue I see is the grey color rectangles in the senate table, between the Class I senators and the congress column (they didn't existed in the previous version). Maybe, that needs to be removed/re-formatted. Else, everything seems to be fine. I have done the Image Review and the Source Review. Since the remaining issue is a minor one, I feel I am ready to Support this article for promotion as a Featured List. Great work! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 18:11, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I did United States congressional delegations from Indiana long ago so I'm happy to see this one!

  • one from both -> one from each
  • In caption you can use Map instead of Geographical location. Not a complete sentence so no period. And technically that map didn't take effect until 2013
  • ndash after 2012 should have spaces around it or be an emdash
  • No comma after House
  • I think the lead could include more facts like that Matsunaga, Akaka, and Hirono all served in both houses. Maybe include a count of people who've served in each house and total, like the Utah and Indiana lists. Since the delegation is so small you could even mention all of them, not just Hirono. Up to you what else you can think of but the lead's a bit short.
  • "Hawaii's senators are elected in classes 1 and 3." but then the table says Class I and Class II.
  • "from 1963–2012" -> "from 1963 to 2012"
  • "The territory initially consisted of the Hawaiian Islands, with the exception of Baker Island, Canton Island, Enderbury Island, Howland Island, Jarvis Island, Johnston Atoll, and Midway Atoll." I don't understand this sentence, these aren't part of the Hawaiian Islands so they're not exceptions.
  • "to be succeeded" -> "succeeded"
  • There's a stray semicolon before ref 13, seems like the "Hawaii had one seat" sentence belonged there instead of the end of the paragraph.
  • "both of Hawaii's representatives to the United States" -> "both of Hawaii's representatives"
  • The first two tables had (D) and (R) in the key but this one doesn't, be consistent
  • "from 1986–1987 and from 1991–2010" see https://style.mla.org/words-with-dash-in-range/
  • All of the see also links are in the article already so the section should just be removed
  • Template at the bottom missing {

Reywas92Talk 16:53, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Reywas92: Thanks! Apologies for the delay. Almost everything on the list is  Done, but I want to talk to another user about the party abbreviations—I'm not sure if they're so necessary in general. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 18:17, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Looks great, Support once the abbrevations are resolved for all or none of the keys. Any comments at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/National Trails System/archive1 would be appreciated. Reywas92Talk 15:51, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much! I removed all of the party abbreviations–with the keys at the top of every table, I don't believe it to be necessary. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 19:55, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
They were re-added per MOS:COLOR so i made it consistent. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 23:47, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed (I fixed a couple date formats and removed the "english" language parameters as that field is only for non-english languages); promoting. --PresN 18:25, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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