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Timeline of the 1990 Pacific hurricane season

Featured list candidates/Timeline of the 1990 Pacific hurricane season/archive1

Nominator(s): Yellow Evan (talk · contribs), 12george1 (talk · contribs)

I proud to announce that I am nominating this wonderful list for featured list because I want a 1900 PHS GT. This list was made by GC a few years back (Who will be co-noming with me today) and I first thought about sending this here; however, it never got off the ground. Yesterday, when GC began to re-work this fine list, we agreed to co-nom. I a few hours back fixed the lead, and here we are at this very moment in time. Oh, BTW, this is a WP:CUP nomination. As for the season itself, it's a parallel to the 2010 Atlantic hurricane season in the lack of impact. However, the storms this year were amazing. There was an off-season storm and Hernan and Trudy intensity is truly mind-blowing, as well as the epic hurricane streak. Since 1990, there has been just one season that have had more than 21 storms, and that is the 1992 Pacific hurricane season as it had 28 storms. This is because Pacific decadal oscillation (PDO) switched to a cold phase in 1995, and increased in intensity big time six years ago. It does not look like 2013 will be anywhere near as active as this awesome season. Have fun reading this list! Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 02:26, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Confirming that the two of us are co-noming this article. Also, this will be a WikiCup nomination for me, too.--12george1 (talk) 02:28, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just a few comments—

"The 1990 Pacific hurricane season is [the] fifth most active Pacific hurricane season on record, tied with 1984." - Seem to be missing a word here.

Fixed--12george1 (talk) 23:06, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Hurricane Alma formed on May 12, 1990, three days before the season's official start on May 15. " - Link to its subsection in the main season article.

Fixed--12george1 (talk) 23:06, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Hurricane Trudy was the last storm to dissipate, doing so on November 1, nearly a month before the season officially ended on November 30." - In which basin?

Better?--12george1 (talk) 23:06, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Thousands were homeless, and 18 people were killed." → "Thousands were left homeless, and there were 18 confirmed fatalities." Maybe?

Fixed--12george1 (talk) 23:06, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Additionally, the remnants of Hurricane Boris brought light showers to California." - Link to subsection.

Fixed--12george1 (talk) 23:06, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"One tropical storm formed in the Central Pacific Hurricane Center's warning zone and eventually crossed the International Dateline before dissipating." - Why is CPHC linked on its second' instance?

That's actually it's first instance. The previous "instance" you are referring to is actually the Central Pacific hurricane season, not the Central Pacific Hurricane Center.--12george1 (talk) 23:06, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be helpful to state how each cyclone developed (from an area of low pressure).

Fixed--12george1 (talk) 21:06, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"1800 UTC (11 a.m. PDT) – Tropical Depression One-E develops about 580 mi (930 km)[nb 2] south of Zihuatanejo, Guerrero.[8]" - You linked PDT, be sure to link UTC as well.

Fixed--12george1 (talk) 23:06, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"0600 UTC (11 p.m. PDT May 15) – Hurricane Alma attains its peak intensity with maximum sustained winds of 85 mph (140 km/h) and a minimum barometric pressure of 979 mbar (28.9 inHg).[8]" - Link Hurricane Alma and the remainder of the storms to their subsection. Be sure to link them on their peak category. If the storm was a TS at peak, link it at [[Tropical Storm XXXXX]]. But if it was a hurricane, don't link [[Tropical Storm XXXXX]], link [[Hurricane XXXX]] on its first instance. Ping me on IRC if that doesn't make sense.

Fixed; do I need to link Hurricanes Alma, Boris, Hernan, Trudy, and Tropical Storm Rachel again?--12george1 (talk) 23:06, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"1800 UTC (11 a.m. PDT) – Tropical Depression Boris dissipated about 400 mi (640 km) west of La Paz, Baja California Sur.[9]" - Shouldn't be past tense. Dissipates, not dissipated.

Fixed--12george1 (talk) 23:06, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"0000 UTC (5 p.m. PDT June 23) – Tropical Depression Douglas dissipated about 140 mi (230 km) south-southeast of the southern tip of Baja California.[11]" - Same as above.

Fixed--12george1 (talk) 23:06, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"0600 UTC (11 p.m. PDT October 2) – Tropical Depression Rachel dissipated over Chihuahua.[24]" - Same as the two above.

Fixed--12george1 (talk) 23:06, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"0000 UTC (5 p.m. PDT October 2) – Tropical Storm Rachel weakened to a tropical depression.[24]" - Not past tense. Weakens, not weakened.

Fixed--12george1 (talk) 23:06, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

State when the hurricane season(s) began and ended in the timeline.

Fixed--12george1 (talk) 23:06, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 22:28, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Sorry for the delay. All of the above comments have been resolved and I don't see anything that fails WP:FL criteria. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 21:51, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose – Firstly, it overlooks a tropical depression in the CPac. Secondly, it could use a lot higher quality images. Lastly, the images should state its timeframe in the caption, as it is a timeline article. These could use some work on. - HurricaneSpin (Talk) 20:32, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 10:33, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose (based on opening sentence/ref!)

Sorry, how on earth can normal people use ref 1 to substantiate the claim "The 1990 Pacific hurricane season is tied with 1984 as the fifth most active Pacific hurricane season in recorded history"? No way at all.
- We have a HURDAT article, and ppl can count. YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:34, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - Sorry, for me it's completely inaccessible. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:22, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - Better? Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 16:31, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"of which twenty-one became named storms, and sixteen of those strengthened" you don't need "of those".
- Good call. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:34, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
" bringing flooding to" to avoid -ing -ing, perhaps "bringing floods to..."
- Done. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:34, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"by Hurricane Trudy months" once mentioned, you normally don't repeat "Hurricane".
- It's good to show some variety, so I disagree. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:34, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
" the International Dateline before" already linked, and spelt differently. (check August 13 too).
- Should be dealt with. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:34, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Timeline graphic needs an en-dash for Saffir–Simpson.
- Fixed. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:34, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"becoming a rare off-season tropical cyclone" where is "rare" cited?
- List of off-season Pacific hurricane says so. YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane
  - This needs to be cited here, articles should standalone. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:22, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - Done. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 16:31, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"The Pacific hurricane season officially begins" linked without a year, vs "The 1990 Central Pacific hurricane season officially begins" unlinked with a year. Consistency?
- Why? YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:34, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - Consistency. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:22, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"weakens back into a" -> "weakens to a..."
- Why? YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane
  - Because the extra "into" is a redundant. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:22, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"weakens back to a " -> as above. Check all others.
- Why? Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane
Consistency needed in ref titles with date ranges and spacing (e.g. compare ref 27 with ref 29).
Anything on this? The Rambling Man (talk) 16:22, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- This should be better now. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 16:26, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 17:31, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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