Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Order of battle in the Biscay campaign of June 1795/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was archived by Crisco 1492 06:59, 23 April 2015 [1].

Order of battle in the Biscay campaign of June 1795 edit

Featured list candidates/Order of battle in the Biscay campaign of June 1795/archive1

Nominator(s): Jackyd101 (talk) 23:11, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

An order of battle for an obscure naval campaign in 1795 in which a French admiral lost his nerve and failed to destroy a smaller British force and was subsequently defeated by a different larger British force, the admiral of which also lost his nerve at the last moment, failing to turn a minor victory into an annihilation. Its been several years since I nominated anything here and I've forgotten all of the niggling requirements for FL I learned back then, so just let me know what I've missed and I'll fix it. Best Jackyd101 (talk) 23:11, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Most of the notes and sources in the tables ends with full stops, but not all. I suggest choosing a consistent approach. Either end all notes with full stops or only those that are sentences (please see: MOS:FULLSTOP and MOS:LISTBULLET). –P. S. Burton (talk) 18:57, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Good call! Done!--Jackyd101 (talk) 19:55, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"during the second year of the French Revolutionary Wars". They started in 1792 so 1795 is not the second year.

The war between Britain and France didn't begin until 1793, but this was still incorrect, so I've simplified.

"protecting an expeditionary force carrying a French Royalist army intended to invade Quiberon under the command of Commodore Sir John Borlase Warren." This is confusing. I took it to mean that Warren was in command of the invasion, but I see on checking that he commanded the convoy.

Clarified.

"Villaret attempted to effect a fighting withdrawal, but several of his captains ignored his orders." Presumably ignored his orders to fight, but this should be made clear.

They failed to support the rearguard - I've tried to clarify.

"Although an attack might have destroyed the entire French fleet" This is unclear. 3 French ships were captured even though Bridport did not attack?

Renewed attack - clarified.--Jackyd101 (talk) 22:24, 19 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"The Battle of Groix, as the second action is known" I was not clear at first that you were referring to the action in the previous paragraph, particularly as you have just said that Bridport did not attack. I think it would be clearer to give the name of the battle at the end of the para describing it, as with Cornwallis's Retreat.

Good call.

"Bridport remained cruising with his fleet off the Breton Coast until September, before handing over control to Rear-Admiral Henry Harvey." This is not in the source cited about Hood.

That is a strange error - I got it completely wrong. I've supplemented the correct source and checked the others. Apologies.--Jackyd101 (talk) 22:24, 19 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I would give the dates in the table headings - e.g. "Cornwallis's Retreat 17 June 1795"

I've renamed those sections after the forces they refer to rather than the battles.

This seems a good list, but I am concerned that the one source I have checked is wrong. Have you checked the other sources retrieved on the same date? Dudley Miles (talk) 17:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Jackyd101: Are you still wishing to continue with this nomination? Harrias ^talk 19:05, 19 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Dudley Miles: @Harrias: Apologies - I have been traveling recently and completely missed these comments. I apologise and have now addressed them .--Jackyd101 (talk) 22:08, 19 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been archived, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Sadly, there wasn't much interest in this. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:44, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.