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List of songs recorded by Chris Cornell

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Nominator(s): Andre666 (talk) 21:27, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because it is a complete, sourced list of all songs by a notable musician, and provides a valuable source of information for anyone who would like to know about the subject's work. Andre666 (talk) 21:27, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your work on this list. I made a suggestion on the list's talk page re: the Notes column, which has mostly empty cells. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:15, 28 October 2017 (UTC)  Done Andre666 (talk) 10:02, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to see you nominated it! A couple comments:

Non-album single
B-side to "Song title"

Other than that great job! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 22:31, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Andre666 this nomination has seemingly been untouched for three weeks, are you intending to address Ojorojo's concerns or do you want it to be withdrawn? The Rambling Man (talk) 10:05, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I had completely forgotten about this. I will make the suggested edits this week, leave it with me :) Andre666 (talk) 12:33, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Andre666 I think we'll have to close this down unless some activity is demonstrated in the next day or so. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:38, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The Rambling Man Sorry, I have made most of these changes but did not update this page. I have now added done notes, is there anything else that needs to be looked at? Andre666 (talk) 10:02, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Quite possibly, I imagine people were holding off to see whether or not you were going to address the concerns raised in late-November, so hopefully now we'll see some more reviews. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:22, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Several problems remain:
  • Nowhere in the lead is the list criteria given, although the Soundgarden, Audioslave, and TOTD songs have been removed.
  • "A" and "The" don't sort properly under "Release".
  • It would be helpful to more readily see (maybe color instead of parenthetical info) which songs are Cornell releases vs guest appearances with other artists (the Harrison song list doesn't include guest appearances).
  • It appears that users can edit MusicBrainz and therefore it is not a reliable source.
  • Template:Cite web#Publisher includes "Do not use the publisher parameter for the name of a work (e.g. a book, encyclopedia, newspaper, magazine, journal, website)"; AllMusic, etc. citations should use |website= or |work=.
  • The images seem to compete visually with the table columns and may take up more width than necessary (how does this look on portable devices?). Some image FURs show "copyrighted" and may only be justified for articles more closely tied to the artist.
—Ojorojo (talk) 17:35, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Andre666 are you going to address these issues? The Rambling Man (talk) 11:45, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, I will work on this later this week as per the notes above. Andre666 (talk) 13:15, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Andre666 are you going to address these issues? The Rambling Man (talk) 09:58, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry again, I have made some of the changes and will make the rest later. I'll let you know when done. Andre666 (talk) 12:05, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hey guys, sorry for the long delay. I think I've fixed everything now:
  • The list criteria is given in the lead section.  Done
  • "A" and "The" sort correctly under the release column.  Done
  • I have added a colour for featured tracks. Let me know if it doesn't work, though.  Done
  • I have replaced all MusicBrainz references.  Done
  • I have changed publisher parameters to website or magazine where appropriate.  Done
  • I'm not sure what to do about the images. Would it help if I just made the thumbnails smaller (150px)?  Not done
Let me know if there is anything else of concern, or if anything is now messed up! Andre666 (talk) 19:53, 24 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ojorojo it looks like Andre666 has responded to your concerns, would you revisit the nomination and see what you think please? The Rambling Man (talk) 12:27, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Image WP:FUR concerns raised two months ago have not been addressed. Several copyrighted images do not appear to meet the "contextual significance criterion" for inclusion in a list about a different artist's songs (see WP:NONFREE). Has anyone reviewed the new citations? M.A.C.C. ("Hey Baby") appears to be a collective effort similar to Temple of the Dog (where M.A.C.C. redirects). Also, more recent edits have introduced some awkward phrasing: "It features songs on which Cornell is credited as an individual artist, including those on which he is a credited featured artist". —Ojorojo (talk) 18:40, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'd certainly agree about the fact those fair use images currently cannot be included. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:45, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Andre666 some more here for you to address. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:58, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I don't really know how I would go about addressing the issue with the images. Would it be a case of simply removing every image on the page, as they'd all come under the same rules? I thought it was pretty normal to use images of songwriters and other artists on a list like this, but I'm happy to be corrected of course. Just don't know where to start. Andre666 (talk) 15:13, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It's the album covers that are problematic. They are fair use images which aren't entitled to be used on this page without express rationales being added to each image page, and there's no justification for their fair use so that's not going to happen. The other images are appropriately licensed for use here. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:17, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Album covers? Do you mean the promotional images for the Screaming Trees (first image) and Eleven (under Alice Cooper)? I assume those are the problematic images, in which case I will remove them post-haste! Andre666 (talk) 15:27, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:11, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Andre666 (talk) 12:07, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ojorojo, Andre666, okay now you two need to work on the final issues here, or else I'll have to archive the nomination which I suspect already holds the record for being the longest in history. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:45, 15 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ojorojo, Andre666 okay guys, last call here. If we're not making progress towards resolving the outstanding issues, I'll archive the nomination. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:26, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've done everything, haven't I? The images were removed, the awkward phrasing fixed, and the M.A.C.C. thing I see as a non-issue. If it's an issue, it can be removed. Simple. What's left? Andre666 (talk) 22:45, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know, but Ojorojo still maintains an oppose. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:51, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Still a day late and a dollar short. If I flagged something once, it's still an issue. Some nominators wait a long time for the chance of a review. This has dragged on long enough. I'll leave it up to others. —Ojorojo (talk) 15:27, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Andre666 it looks like the ball is in your court now. There's insufficient consensus to promote, and this has been ongoing for a record time. Unless you can find more reviewers and/or action Ojorojo's outstanding issues, I think we'll need to withdraw this. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:38, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Let's leave it then. I've addressed everything and gone back to check. I don't see what is left, so it can remain unfeatured. Andre666 (talk) 09:20, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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