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List of songs recorded by Billie Eilish

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Nominator(s): The Ultimate Boss (talk) 01:36, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets FL criteria. I used reliable sources and used List of songs recorded by Katy Perry, List of songs recorded by Taylor Swift and List of songs recorded by Meghan Trainor as references when creating the article. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 01:36, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from ChrisTheDude

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Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:25, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
*"three extended play's (EP)" - that apostrophe should not be there

ChrisTheDude, thank you so much for your comments. I have changed everything except what it noted above. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 17:17, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:27, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ChrisTheDude, how does it look now? The Ultimate Boss (talk) 00:02, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"&Burn" and "8" appear to now be back to sorting based on the character "&" and the digit "8".....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:25, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ChrisTheDude, I just went ahead and removed "&" and "8" from the column table. 20:04, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • I still think "&Burn", "8" and possibly "!!!!!!!" are in the wrong places in the table. I believe that "&Burn" should be placed after "All the Good Girls Go to Hell" and set to sort as if it starts with A (but still shown in the table as "&Burn") . "8" should be placed after "Copycat" and set to sort as if it starts with E (but still shown in the table as "8"). Not sure about "!!!!!!!" - how do you actually say that title out loud......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:25, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Ojorojo

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  • Since this is a list of songs recorded by Billie Eilish, is a column for "Artist(s)" necessary? For songs with other artists (only three), maybe include as a note after the song title: "Lovely" (with Khalid). Also, maybe highlight the song entry with a different color if this is an important point.
I don't think coloring the respective cells is important, but I removed "Artist(s)" and added a note to the songs having a guest artist.
  • Why not have the sort function for the "Writer(s)" column? I find it useful to see all the songs written by others or a particular writer grouped together. Also, as done for writers in album track listings, it would look less busy to write out the full name at the first occurrence, then just use the last ("Billie Eilish O'Connell" may be her legal name, but for this list "Eilish" may be clearer, especially since the names are stacked vertically, at least on my display).
It is clarified in the lead that Eilish's full name is "O'Connell". And since we're using the way she is credited in the songs (with her full name), we can't use her last name only since it's the same as her brother. The "first occurrence" things does not apply to sortable lists since users can sort them, which makes the 'first cell' go under; you'd have to link that one thing everywhere. Plus I don't think sorting the writers is necesarry—first, there aren't that many and second we always have "groups" of people, which I don't believe many would want to sort.
  • Why is it necessary to highlight "Non-album single" in the "Album" column? It's unclear that these entries need to be further distinguished from the album entries.

–Ojorojo (talk) 15:56, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't exactly know what you mean here, but if you mean the grey color, it's from the template.

@Ojorojo: Hi there! I have answered to your comments; let me know what you think. Greets; Cartoon network freak (talk) 18:12, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Ojorojo: The template is used by fellow FLs of this kind, including List of songs recorded by Lady Gaga and List of songs recorded by Taylor Swift. Cartoon network freak (talk) 22:01, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It might be appropriate for those articles, but it doesn't appear to be justified for this one. Maybe others can explain it. —Ojorojo (talk) 15:38, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Source review – Pass

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Resolved comments from Aza24 (talk) 00:42, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
*None source thing, the artist and writer columns look weird with so much "consistency" – if you will. I would recommend a "remarks" or "notes" column after the year and put extra things like "with Vince Staples". You could put a note at the name of notes column like "Sung by Billie Eilish and written... unless otherwise noted"
Hmm, I removed the "Artist(s)" column, but I do think the "Writer(s)" should remain since we have more names here than in "Artist(s)". Also, if we did notes, we'd have to add quite a few since there are multiple instances where a song isn't written only by Eilish and her brother. And that would make the table, in my opinion, confusing.
  • Shouldn't spotify be under "publisher" like Apple music?
  • A little confused by the linking, I assumed that you meant to link the publisher/work in only the first mentions, but Vulture is linked twice and Spotify/Billboard aren't linked at all.
  • ref 36 is missing publisher/website and has differently formatting retrieval date
  • why is 29 itunes and not apple music?
    • In fact the Itunes, Itunes store and apple music all seem to go to the same website but are using different names
  • link 32 is broken
  • (recommendation) Archive links would be nice, and can be added rather quickly in "View History" –> "Fix dead links" and checking "Add archives to all non-dead references (Optional)" - Aza24 (talk) 01:08, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @WP:FLC director and delegates: it looks like The Ultimate Boss has retired. Should this nomination be removed? They did a lot of good work here and it would be a shame for it to go to waste; I'm happy to help find another interested editor who could go through the nomination process if that's an option. Let me know. Aza24 (talk) 08:41, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Aza24:@Giants2008: I think I have solved all your issues. Greets; Cartoon network freak (talk) 21:53, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good, pass for source review. Aza24 (talk) 23:30, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Support from Gerald Waldo Luis

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Resolved comments from GeraldWL 08:57, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
* Isn't the plural for album "albums"?
  • Link soundtrack album within "soundtrack"?
  • ""Bored" for 13 Reasons Why (A Netflix Original Series Soundtrack) (2017)" comma "and "Lovely" for 13 Reasons Why: Season 2 (Music from the Original TV Series) (2018)."
  • Suggest linking drug-addiction and suicide.
  • Suggest removing period at the table header.
  • Suggest adding alt texts in images.
  • Does Spotify constitute a reliable source? There's also references to Apple Music and stuff.
To my knowledge, digital retailers are reliable enough to cite a song's release date, and here we don't even need that but just the release year. Cartoon network freak (talk) 09:58, 6 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Suggest linking cover song within "cover" in footnote e.

I'll strike to support after the comments above are resolved. GeraldWL 10:02, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerald Waldo Luis: Thank you for your comments, I have solved everything above except for one. Greets; Cartoon network freak (talk) 09:58, 6 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerald Waldo Luis: Cartoon network freak (talk) 08:52, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cartoon network freak, apologies for the delay! I've stricken it. Feel free to collapse. GeraldWL 08:57, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from HĐ

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Resolved comments from HĐ (talk)
* Is her birth name important for the lead?
It's included because otherwise she'd mentioned by her birth name as a songwriter without any prior introduction of the name.
  • In November 2015, at the age of 13, Eilish uploaded "Ocean Eyes" to SoundCloud. The song became an instant hit these two can be merged into one sentence
  • Eilish has also contributed multiple songs to soundtracks—"Ocean Eyes" for Everything, Everything (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) (2017), "Bored" for 13 Reasons Why (A Netflix Original Series Soundtrack) (2017), and "Lovely" for 13 Reasons Why: Season 2 (Music from the Original TV Series) (2018). Two of the three songs mentioned here are singles of her previous albums. Probably "Eilish's songs have appeared on soundtracks" would sound better
  • Sourcing is good in terms of format and quality.

Once my comments are addressed I will be happy to support. HĐ (talk) 16:23, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@HĐ: Thank you very much for your comments, I have addressed them. Greets; Cartoon network freak (talk) 17:08, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your work. I support this list for promotion. Great work, HĐ (talk) 17:22, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from The Ultimate Boss

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@Cartoon network freak: Thanks a lot for taking over the nomination. I appreciate that you improved the article even more and earned all these supports. I would have never been able to earn all these supports. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 03:49, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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