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The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 10:30, 2 June 2012 [1].

List of international cricket five-wicket hauls by Imran Khan edit

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Nominator(s): ZiaUllahKhan Khadar Khani 16:44, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I think it meets the criteria. This is based upon FLs Muttiah Muralitharan and Waqar Younis. Please feel free to make your comments and suggestions... ZiaUllahKhan Khadar Khani 16:44, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 11:07, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "at the Sharjah Cricket Association Stadium (Sharjah)" do you really think you need (Sharjah) after "Sharjah Cricket Association Stadium"?
  • "and Dennis Lillee[19]" missing full stop.
  • Sri Lanka cricket team is overlinked in the lead.
  • "runs inthe match" space needed.
  • Some but not all Cricinfo match report refs use the cricket match date as the publication date of the source. I don't think that's correct. But in any case, be consistent.
  • "Imran Khan was selected "Man of the match"." no need to repeat Imran here.
  • Why SM Gavaskar and not Sunil?
  • Same for J Garner... be consistent, check all names are First Last, not F. Last.
  • You have Chennai and Calcutta in 1980. Is that consistent?
  • No need for the ODI table to be sortable, particularly as he won't be adding to it.
  • C in ESPNCricinfo should be c.
  • "Retrieved 26 April 2012September 2011." punctuation and space needed.
  • Any need for that second external link?

The Rambling Man (talk) 12:14, 1 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

  • A link to the 1992 World Cup would be helpful in the quote.
  • Publisher of reference 9 (The Hindu) should be italicized. Giants2008 (Talk) 18:15, 6 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from —Vensatry (Ping me)
Comments from —Vensatry (Ping me)
  • "between 1971 to 1992" -> between 1971 and 1992.
  • Done.
  • "Khan's maiden ODI five-wicket haul came in 1985 against India in a match which Pakistan won at the Sharjah Cricket Association Stadium, Sharjah". If you check the scorecard, Pakistan had actually lost the game.
  • Sorry, my mistake! Corrected.
  • This list doesn't comply with the new FL criteria. For eg., Use {{dagger}} instead of spade symbol and {{double-dagger}} instead of asterisk.
  • Done.
  • Since Imran Khan had claimed two five wicket hauls in the same match on a few occasions, you need to mention that too.
  • Done.
  • Ref #9 is missing author.
  • I couldn't find author's name on the page.
  • Done.
  • Date format needs to be maintained consistently as per MOS:DATEUNIFY. You must follow the same style throughout the article. The body uses "MDY" format while the references use "DMY" format.
  • Done.
  • You say that, "He went on to take ten or more wickets per match on 6 occasions", where as the table lists eight such entries. Likewise each and every entry needs to be examined carefully.
  • Tests #2 and #3 refer to the same match. Same for #9, #10, and #14 #15.
  • "As of April 2012, he is eleventh overall among all-time five-wicket haul takers". This needs clarification.
  • Eleventh in Tests, ODIs or both combined? You need to rephrase the sentence for better clarity. —Vensatry (Ping me) 15:04, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Done.

I think, I've addressed your concerns. ZiaUllahKhan Khadar Khani 15:39, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

—Vensatry (Ping me) 05:17, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Harrias
;Comments from Harrias talk
  • Why is the "o" in square brackets in ""[o]ne of the finest fast bowlers.."? As far as I can see you've quoted it directly, thus don't require the brackets?
  • Removed square brackets
  • I'm also concerned that you quote more than you need to in that instance; you should probably cut the quote off after "inspirational captain" – even attributed quotes can be problematic if they are used too much out of context, and I think him captaining Pakistan to the 1992 World Cup could be considered out of context for this article, though I could be convinced.
  • Quote fixed.
  • "lost at Melbourne Cricket Ground, Melbourne." and "at the Sydney Cricket Ground, Sydney." Not sure you need to repeat the locations!
  • Fixed!
  • "He went on to take three pairs of five-wicket hauls in a single match." – How many innings did that match have?! For clarity, this would be far better phrased something like "By the end of his career, he had claimed five-wickets hauls in both innings of a match on three occasions."
  • Corrected.
  • "He went on to take ten or more wickets per match on 6 occasions." – "per match" implies an average, you need to use "in a match".
  • Done.
  • "Making his One Day International (ODI) debut in October 1974[10] against Sri Lanka at Iqbal Stadium, Faisalabad,[16] Khan's maiden ODI.." – "Making his.." implies that something is going to be said about what happened in that match, but it isn't, so you need to change it to something similar to the previous paragraph, or "Having made his.."
  • Done.
  • Also "..Khan's maiden ODI five-wicket haul.." implies he took more than one: try "..Khan's solitary ODI five-wicket haul.." possibly?
  • Done.
  • Is § an accessible character?
  • Changed to *.
  • Done.
  • I'm not keen on the symbols wrapping onto the next line in the table, could you set these not to wrap, or make the table wider (or both)?
  • Done.

I think, I've addressed your concerns. ZiaUllahKhan Khadar Khani 23:18, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Harrias talk 20:12, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from BencherliteTalk 19:39, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support with comments:
I made some minor copy edits to the lead, checked a sample of the list for accuracy and am happy with things.
Always appreciate a helping hand!
I think that ground 6 should be changed to "Madras Cricket Club Ground" as that was what it was at the time; calling it by a later name is anachronistic.
I don't think that is better idea.
Why not? If Headingley changes its name to the "Tetley Tea Cricket Ground", or "The Geoffrey Boycott Stadium", would you come back and change the name here? If not, what's different about calling it the "Madras Cricket Club Ground"? Anyone who clicks onto the article will see what it's now called, after all. BencherliteTalk 13:42, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I hadn't noticed this, and would definitely agree with Bencherlite that it should be what the ground was called at the time. Harrias talk 17:07, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, me too. If it's an issue, then add a footnote explaining the name change. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:10, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Once the name of a ground is changed, I think we should use the new name. If Headingley changes its name we'll go to update the article accordingly. ZiaUllahKhan Khadar Khani 17:14, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Disagree. St James' Park has been renamed "Sports Direct Arena" but we won't be going back over every single football article replacing the former for the latter. The same applies here. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:20, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well, in that case I 'm going to change it to "Madras Cricket Club Ground". ZiaUllahKhan Khadar Khani 17:29, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Do you need both reference 3 and reference 18, or can you use the same reference twice?
Fixed.
I do wonder, though, whether we really need the double wikilinks in the grounds e.g. "Melbourne Cricket Ground, Melbourne" as readers are unlikely to want to click directly to Melbourne from this list (as opposed to the MCG), and if they do happen to want to read about Melbourne they can get there from the MCG link. Alternatively, perhaps only include the city name (unlinked) when it's not in the ground name e.g. "Headingley Stadium, Leeds" but "Melbourne Cricket Ground".
Fixed.

But these are minor quibbles. Nice work. BencherliteTalk 07:25, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments. ZiaUllahKhan Khadar Khani 11:52, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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