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The list was promoted by Hahc21 00:30, 23 July 2013 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of international cricket centuries by Hashim Amla

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Nominator(s): The Rambling Man (talk), Zia Khan 21:46, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

One of the finest batsman in the recent cricket, Hashim Amla has played some memorable innings during his career. I worked on his centurys' list and now I think the list is ready to enter the FL status. Pleasure having a co-nominator like The Rambling Man. Looking forward to comments and suggeations Zia Khan 21:46, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

  • In the first sentence there should be a "the" before South Africa.
  • In the lead photo's alt text, should "beard man" be "bearded man"? Giants2008 (Talk) 21:15, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed both, thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:20, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from —Vensatry (Ping me) 05:00, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "Hashim Amla has scored 28 centuries for South Africa" -> 30 centuries
  • Consider including he inside quotes as it's found in the source.
  • His score of 311 not out, against England at The Oval, London in 2012, is the highest total and the only triple century by a South African batsman in Test cricket -> Use either "highest total" or "only triple century", not both.
  • Successive sentences in the second para start with "Amla". Rephrase them
  • making five against them
  • Too many he/his in the last para
  • all formats of the game combined.[21][n 1] -> Remove ref #21 as the FN contains the same ref.
  • Ref #5 needs author
  • Check the ref titles for each and every ref; the title for ref #14 reads "Records – Test matches – Most hundreds in a career for England", it should be SAF isn't it? and also the title for ref #37 says "Sri Lanka in England Test Series – 2nd Test".
  • Century #11 is 118*
  • (Pos, Inn) for his 18th hundred is (2,2)
  • He did not win MoM award for his 140 against India.
  • Balls for his fifth ODI ton is 103
  • Date for his third ODI ton is 30 May 2010
  • Matches for which the result was determined using "Duckworth–Lewis method" must be noted
  • Secondary sort needed for Runs in the ODI table

—Vensatry (Ping me) 17:16, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

      • Unless noted, all comments addressed, thanks for your time Vensatry, please let us know if there's anything else (or anything here we haven't dealt with). The Rambling Man (talk) 19:28, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Crisco 1492

  • Support on prose and images. Good job, both of you. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:24, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • "As of April 2013, Amla is thirtieth in the list of century-makers in international cricket, all formats of the game combined" - Stats like this will go out of date very quickly.Tintin 13:46, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hence the {{as of}} template. Such statements are standard for lists of centuries and the editors seem to keep the articles fairly up to date. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:48, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ok, if people keep it up to date, fine. Otherwise, little point in still saying in Jan 2015 that Amla was No.30 in April 2013. Tintin 13:51, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • RM, on looking around some other similar articles, this one seems to be more volatile than everything else. For eg, KP's article lists only the runs and number of Tests; Kallis' has his rank among South Africans. They won't change as quickly as this one. Amla is on 30 with Clarke, Cook and de Villiers. Until Amla reach 40+ centuries, this rank is probably going to change every month. Can you please consider a more stable variation. Tintin 02:35, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well I'm not fussed. If you wish to remove "April" then please feel free to do so. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:22, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from The-Pope

  • I know it's "the standard" style on most of these sporting lists, but I still think that the giant Key table shouldn't be as big, or before the table of actual data. Surely we can find a variation so that you don't need to scroll down so far to see the actual list? The-Pope (talk) 14:41, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Happy to consider suggestions, but as you say, it's "standard" across most, if not all of these featured lists. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:33, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Standard doesn't mean best. How about moving it below the tables, not before it, (above the notes/refs) and making it 2 column (4 column) like this:
Key
Symbol Meaning Symbol Meaning
* Remained not out H/A/N Venue was at home (South Africa), away or neutral
† Man of the match Date Date the match was held, or the starting date of match for Test matches
Balls Balls faced Lost The match was lost by South Africa.
Pos. Position in the batting order Won The match was won by South Africa.
Inn. The innings of the match Drawn The match was drawn.
Test The number of the Test match played in that series (D/L) The match was decided using the Duckworth–Lewis method.
S/R Strike rate during the innings

Sorry I don't understand how scope= works, so I've converted it to standard tables, but sure this or smaller is better? The-Pope (talk) 08:44, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not bad, but really don't like the blank cell at the bottom right of the table. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:22, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
By which I mean it's not an improvement (in my opinion) on what we already have. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:33, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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