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List of box office records set by Deadpool (film) edit

List of box office records set by Deadpool (film) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): adamstom97 (talk) 23:54, 26 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Deadpool is the highest grossing R-rated film of all time, breaking numerous box office records upon its release. This is a comprehensive, easily followed list of these records, which I believe meets all the FL criteria. No concerns with the article were expressed during a peer review, but any suggestions for improvement are most welcome here. Thanks, adamstom97 (talk) 23:54, 26 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from BeatlesLedTV (talk) 19:06, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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That's funny the accolade list for this film is an FLC as well! Anyways, moving on:

  • Almost every sentence in the last lead paragraph should have a ref (the one about opening in 80 markets I think can be an exception)
  • Also ref the sentence about how Reynolds' portrayal in Origins: Wolverine was not well received
  • 10 → ten
  • Not sure if the wisecracking wiktionary link is necessary
  • Remove the "(with values given here in the United States dollar)." from the lead and move it just under the records heading (obviously change it to something like "All values given in United States dollars)
  • Add alt text to the film logo

That's all I got. Great job! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 01:47, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments BeatlesLedTV! The sentences in that last lead paragraph which you are referring to are sourced in the body of the article, with that paragraph just giving a summary of those in the usual lead style. For the number 10, it can be either numerals or spelled out per MOS:NUMS, and for consistency this is the style we have been using for the Deadpool articles. The link to wisecracking is also consistently used throughout the articles, and also potentially came about in the GA review of Deadpool (film), though I'm not positive on that. Other than those points, I believe I have covered your concerns. - adamstom97 (talk) 06:14, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I think we need a community discussion about this kind of article. I'm seeing stuff like "Biggest opening day for an M18-rated film in Singapore ($205 thousand)[19]" and thinking, TRIVIA! So right now, it's oppose but I'd like to see who else comments on this and how. Right now, most of the significant box office records would be covered in a paragraph in the main article. I currently see no reason for this spinoff to exist. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:46, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The one TRM cited isn't the one that caught my eye, it was this one; "Biggest opening day for a 15-rated Fox film in the United Kingdom ($3.4 million)" So the triple intersection of country, rating, and studio to make a "record". I don't see this as an FL, or even an article that needs to exist at all. Trim down significantly and merge back into the main article on the film. Courcelles (talk) 02:46, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What are you guys defining as trivia? This is a pretty compact list, and it is all deemed noteworthy by pretty reliable sources. It also does not seem any less notable or trivial than the sorts of things that WP:SALAT recommend as appropriate lists, just maybe something that you do not find so interesting. For instance, under "Lists of subtaxa" it notes that in an article on organisms it would be appropriate to note a couple of examples, but if there are a few to list then a full and complete separate list should be written. Similarly, I don't think it is appropriate to be dealing with lots of box office records at the film article, so I started putting together this list, and I therefore did what I could to make it full and complete. Personally, being able to see a short list of all the box office records that a box office-noteworthy film set is far more interesting than a list of subtaxa, and helps contribute to a thorough topic on this film. If there was consensus to not have separate lists for box office records then I would understand, but there is not, so I think it is a bit unfair to say it is not FL quality because of a community consensus that does not yet exist. - adamstom97 (talk) 08:26, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm seeing trivial intersections which create pseudo-records which aren't really notable at all. I have also said that I'd like more community input. What other FLs are there for box office records? The Rambling Man (talk) 08:41, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I believe there are none, as there are not many lists like this. However, I don't believe that effects the quality of this one. - adamstom97 (talk) 09:45, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't suggest that, I just wondered if there were any box office record lists and if any of them had been made into FLs. Regardless, my !vote stands, there's simply too much trivia in here for me. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:19, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
My vote stands as well. "Biggest opening weekend for a Fox film in Hong Kong" is is an example of non-notable trivia. Also, I don't even know what "Biggest opening weekend for the X-Men film series in Germany " has to do with this film. Is it really an X-men series film? Regardless, the key points can be summarized in a paragraph in either the main page or as an abridged list in the accolade list. There is no reason to have this additional page. Mattximus (talk) 14:34, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

PresN, Giants2008, this needs a look at from one of you to advise on the way ahead. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:53, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think Giants is still out, but this is an oppose from me too, and consideration for AfD. No offense to the nominator, and I recognize the amount of effort put in to finding and sourcing these records, but there's a ton of non-notable trivia here. "Biggest IMAX opening weekend for February in North America", "Highest advance ticket sales for February on Fandango in North America", "Biggest opening day for a Fox film in Hong Kong", etc., etc. Nearly every one of them is a triple intersection just to make a small enough niche that it could be a "record" - biggest (weekday) release of a (format) film in (month) in one particular (region)... that's trivia. Additionally, even if that was successfully argued away, the list gives no context. For example, how many "Biggest Premium Large Format R-rated opening(s) in North America" have there been? How many "IMAX opening weekend(s) for a February in Taiwan"? Like, are these records out of hundred or thousands of films? Out of twelve releases? If $55 thousand per screen is the biggest IMAX opening weekend in February in France ever, what's second place, or average? Is it a big record, or just barely higher than second place? I suspect the answer is that neither you nor anyone else knows, because these aren't things that are really tracked, these are puff "records" called out by the film's back company in order to get cheap PR blurbs. --PresN 03:16, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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