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List of awards and nominations received by Game of Thrones edit

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Nominator(s): -- LuK3 (Talk) 13:48, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because the list of nominations and awards are cited thoroughly. The content is also up-to-date and sorted correctly. The list was a FL candidate a few years ago, I think the list has been updated and sourced correctly since then. -- LuK3 (Talk) 13:48, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:44, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
*Blimey, this is going to be a monster to review. One thing that immediately jumped out at me - the lead says "To date, Game of Thrones has won 308 awards out of 628 nominations". These figures aren't even remotely close to the ones in the infobox (one is much higher and the other is much lower). Which are correct.........? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:43, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have updated the number of number of awards won in the infobox along with the nominations in the lead. -- LuK3 (Talk) 12:49, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
* ChrisTheDude, added the new tables and fixed up some missing references on the main page. -- LuK3 (Talk) 12:45, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have also updated the wins and nominations in the infobox. -- LuK3 (Talk) 15:53, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:28, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
*Comments on the lead
    • "The rest of the cast was also very praised" => "The rest of the cast was also praised"
    • "it set a record for winning the most number of Primetime Emmy Awards" => "it set a record for winning the highest number of Primetime Emmy Awards"
    • "To date, Game of Thrones has won 283 awards out of 778 nominations." - doesn't match the infobox
      • Updated the inline total. -- LuK3 (Talk) 13:11, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • "Game of Thrones also holds six world records from the Guinness Book of World Records, "Most pirated TV program" and "Largest TV drama simulcast" among others" => "Game of Thrones also holds six world records from the Guinness Book of World Records, including "Most pirated TV program" and "Largest TV drama simulcast"" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:37, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments on the first table
    • Actor and characters names should sort on surname, not forename -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:41, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Table sorted by last name for both actor names and characters here. -- LuK3 (Talk) 14:26, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments on the second table
    • What's driving the order in which people are listed? If it's based on the first season in which the actor was nominated, why is Lena Headey listed before Diana Rigg and Emilia Clarke? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:44, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • I moved Lena Headey after Rigg and Clarke. It is based on the first season nominated. -- LuK3 (Talk) 14:37, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments on the third table
    • People's names should sort on the surname, not the forename
    • Episode titles starting with quote marks should sort on the first word (without the quote marks)
      • ChrisTheDude, what would be the best way to sort by both the surname and episode title together? -- LuK3 (Talk) 22:06, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • If I am understanding the question correctly, you don't need to sort by both surname and episode title. But if the recipient was a person then the sortkey should be their surname. If the recipient was simply an episode then it should be the title but ignoring any leading quote marks and the words The/A/An. Does that help......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:38, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • Gotcha, I understand now, thanks Chris. -- LuK3 (Talk) 13:31, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Most refs are centred, a few are not. Where there are multiple refs in a cell, most of the time there is a line break between them but sometimes there is not.
    • There's some random small text in the Grammys section which should just be normal text -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:56, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • I have included all of these comments in the first "Significant Guild and Peer Awards" table. -- LuK3 (Talk) 14:21, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments on Emmy lead
    • "and include categories recognising" - US spelling should be used (as it is earlier in the same sentence)
    • "Peter Dinklage has been nominated for Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series eight times in a row" - according to the table it is eight times, but not in a row, as he wasn't nominated in 2017
    • "with a win in 2011, 2015, 2018 and 2019." => "with wins in 2011, 2015, 2018 and 2019."
    • "was nominated for 24 awards. The show ultimately won twelve awards" - why is one written as a number but the other as a word?
    • "The show yet again" => "The show again"
    • "all received their first ever Emmy Award nomination thanks to this season" => "all received their first Emmy Award nominations thanks to this season"
    • Merge those last two micro-paragraphs into the one before -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:02, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments on Emmy table
    • Same comment as above re: sorting
    • Same comment as above re: the centring/line breaking of refs. Also at least one cell has two refs which are not in numeric order -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:32, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • I added data sorting in addition to the ref fixes. -- LuK3 (Talk) 16:00, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments on the next table
    • As above re: sorting and refs. Also episodes that start with "The" should sort on the next word
    • Guiness World Records are not critical awards and therefore don't belong in this table. A critical award is one based on the views of groups of critics as to what is the "best" - "Most viewers sharing a single torrent file simultaneously", for example, clearly doesn't fit that definition
    • "For the complete second season on Blu-ray" - doesn't need the word "for"
    • Choice of when to link seems a bit haphazard - Emilia Clarke is linked three times in the People's Choice Awards section but Sophie Turner only once. Similarly in the Saturn Awards section, Lena Headey is linked twice (out of five mentions) but Maisie Williams only once -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:44, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • ChrisTheDude, I moved the Guinness World Records to the "Other awards" table. As for the linking, I tried to follow MOS:REPEATLINK so I removed links after the first mention in each table. I also added data sorting, fixed up some references, and grammatical errors. -- LuK3 (Talk) 20:11, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's admittedly quite hard to spot with so many names, but I just found a couple of cases where people were linked more than once in the same table: in the guild and peer awards, David Benioff was linked twice and Carolyn Strauss three times. I fixed these but it's probably worth another sweep to see if there's any more. Other than that, it's looking great! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:11, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • I went through again and removed more overlinks. -- LuK3 (Talk) 14:12, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • ChrisTheDude, I believe I addressed all of your comments. -- LuK3 (Talk) 14:55, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Humblest apologies, but I just spotted one more thing - "The Norman Felton Award for Outstanding Producer of Episodic Television, Drama" is shown in quote marks for some reason, which means it sorts incorrectly. It's also shown inconsistently both with and without the "the" at the start. I would say without the "the" is correct -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:27, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • Thanks for the note Chris! Not sure why "the" was included because it's not included in the official award. I've removed both "the" at the beginning as well as the quotation marks. -- LuK3 (Talk) 16:46, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - thanks for bearing with me :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:54, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Spy-cicle
  • In the second paragraph in the lede ref #5 does not reference all 10 nominations. There is also no referencing for Producers Guild of America Awards (one win), eight Directors Guild of America Awards (two wins), seven Art Directors Guild Awards (five wins) and fourteen Satellite Awards (three wins).
  • So just a comment about this. I couldn't find any references containing all of the nominations and awards for the specific award. I had to create a ref list within it to list the different award ceremonies. -- LuK3 (Talk) 22:19, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • AFI Awards 2014 and 2015 are not correctly referenced. Currently Ref #18 displays the 2019 awards.
  • Changed the 2014 and 2015 AFI Awards references. -- LuK3 (Talk) 14:31, 22 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Some refs are not archived some of these include refs: #1, 4, 6, 7, 8, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19 and more (did not count all of them).
  • I went through and added archived links to all of the references that didn't have one. -- LuK3 (Talk) 14:31, 22 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think it might be worth giving a brief explanation under the Significant Guild and Peer Awards heading as to how they differ from most of other awards
  • I added an explanation under the section heading. -- LuK3 (Talk) 21:13, 22 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • The publisher parameter needs to be correctly filled out when there is one. For example: website=IGN|publisher=Ziff Davis
  • When filling out the website or publisher parameter could you make sure to wikilink it where possible as I can still see some which are not wikilinked.
  • Added a wikilink to both the work and publisher. -- LuK3 (Talk) 14:31, 22 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

More comments to come. Regards  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 22:50, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the comments Spy-cicle, I have started to work on these. I will continue this week. -- LuK3 (Talk) 03:12, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Spy-cicle, I believe I addressed all of your starting comments. -- LuK3 (Talk) 14:47, 22 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, great. I should have some more comments up by the next weekend.  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 17:51, 22 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 19:58, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Not sure that single-sentence fourth para is a good thing, I'd merge it into the end of the third para.
  • "In 2015, it set" replace "it" with "Game of Thrones" because it's unclear what "it" is here.
  • Tables need to comply with MOS:ACCESS, i.e. captions where appropriate, col and row scopes where appropriate.
  • John Bradley appears to be piped to a redirect.
  • Dinklage caption, per MOS:NUM, Comparable values should be all spelled out or all in figures, so 9/38 or nine/thirty-eight.
  • In the main table, some are referred to in singular e.g. "Annie Award" and others plural e.g. "American Film Institute Awards", why the inconsistency?
  • "Significant Guild and Peer Awards" see WP:HEAD, this is overcapitalised.
  • Weiss caption is a full sentence so needs a period.
  • Check for spaced hyphens, per MOS:DASH they should be en-dashes.

That's what I have for now. I'm obliged to state that this review may be used in the WikiCup as evidence of my efforts to improve Wkipedia. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 13:50, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you The Rambling Man, I believe I addressed all of your comments. -- LuK3 (Talk) 16:02, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Brojam
  • "The series, mostly written by Benioff, Weiss and Martin," change to "The series, mostly written by Benioff and Weiss," since Martin only wrote 4 of the 73 episodes so not really appropriate to be mentioned here alongside Benioff and Weiss, who wrote 50+ eps. Especially, considering that Bryan Cogman and Dave Hill have written more or the same amount as Martin.
  • In the lead, it's not necessary to include all those references while listing the number of noms and wins for each major award (from Golden Globe Awards to Peabody Award) since it's already sourced in the body of the article per WP:CITELEAD, especially since you are duplicating references.
  • I have removed the duplicate references in the lead. -- LuK3 (Talk) 15:14, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • In the nominations and awards for the cast table, each "Actor" row needs a "! scope="row" |" next to it and all the columns a "! scope="col" | " for accessibility. You can also remove "align="left;"" from the "Actor" rows since the "! scope="row" |" will handle that.
  • In the awards tables, only "scope=row" the first row, not every row.
  • Removed and added as needed. -- LuK3 (Talk) 14:05, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actor/crew names and categories in the awards tables should be linked every time since the tables are sortable and thus the first instance will not always be the same.
  • The "Emmy nominations and awards for the cast" section should be a subsection of "Emmy Awards".
  • There should be some sort of consistency between "awards and nominations" and "nominations and awards" everywhere in the article. Probably best to stick with the former to align with the article's name.
  • That's it for me for now. Great work on such a long list! - Brojam (talk) 04:46, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 22:39, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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