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List of World Heritage Sites in Ukraine edit

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Nominator(s): Tone 09:28, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ukraine has 7 WH sites and 17 sites on the tentative list. The style is standard. Two of the tentative sites have no explanation in the UNESCO source (they are rather old nominations) so I don't want to speculate on the significance. The nomination of Russia is already seeing some support so I am comfortable in adding a new one. I know I said I'd nominate Italy next but that article still needs some work. Tone 09:28, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Content review from AryKun
  • "and one, the" → "and one of which, the"
  • You use the spelling L'viv, while our article on the city uses Lviv?
  • "its medieval topography" → I would link "topography".
  • "interactions of different communities" → "interactions of the different communities"
  • "segment of a meridian" → Link "meridian".
  • "In addition to the sites inscribed on the World Heritage list" → ""In addition to the sites on the World Heritage list"
  • "9th-13th centuries" → Should have an en-dash (–).
  • "2 thousand plant species" → "two thousand plant species"
  • "quarters of the khans" → "quarters of the Khans"
  • "in constructivist style" → "in the constructivist style"
  • That's all I can find, good job on yet another excellent list. AryKun (talk) 16:29, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • @AryKun: Fixed, thank you for the review! The original source uses L'viv but since our articles have Lviv, I changed everywhere to avoid confusion. --Tone 21:29, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nothing else I could find, so support. AryKun (talk) 06:08, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "The architecture of the city represents a fusion of styles form Eastern Europe" - presume that should say "from" not "form"?
  • "No description provided in the nomination documentation." - this is not a complete sentence so should not have a full stop
  • "The construction of the English landscape park started in 1796 by Stanisław Szczęsny Potocki." => "The construction of the English landscape park was started in 1796 by Stanisław Szczęsny Potocki."
  • "It served as the residence of Crimean Khans for around next 250 years" => "It served as the residence of Crimean Khans for around 250 years"
  • "This archeological site encompasses" - everywhere else in the article you use the spelling "archaeological"
  • "Sudak declined in the importance" => "Sudak declined in importance"
  • That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:33, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:44, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Support by Gerald Waldo Luis edit

Yes. GeraldWL 21:48, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from GeraldWL 08:29, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
* "while still officially being a Union Republic of the Soviet Union"-- I think it should be established that SU is no longer a thing. Perhaps "the now-defunct Soviet Union"?
    • See now.
      • Looks good.
  • "Three sites are transnational. The Wooden Tserkvas...." This can be combined: "Three sites are transnational: the Wooden Tserkvas...."
  • Generally, it's either you digitize numbers 10 and above or you don't at all. "with eleven countries" must ba "with 11 countries" because of this.
    • I think I got them.
  • Why does the first section only summarizes the criteria, while the Tentative mentions how many sites there are?
    • This is the standard style we are using, the number of WHS is already in the intro so very close to the section. I think this is fine.
  • I suggest putting new rows just for the Refs, as they don't only cover the description but also other data.
    • I don't think this is a good idea, it would make the tables look ugly. This is compact and consistent.
      • Fair enough :)
  • No duplicate links and curly quotes :))
    • Not sure what you mean with the quotes. I am avoiding duplicate links in the same lines but not in the tables in general as sorting can order them differently. This has been discussed about at some previous nomination.
      • I just kinda made a confirmation point, or idk what it's called. I intended to say there are no redundant duplicate links detected. Curly as in MOS:CURLY, and I couldn't find them.
  • I'll do a full review on the descriptions tomorrow, but for the first one, "in the Ukrainian Baroque style" -- you can remove the "the" as it's incorrect for architecture style terms.
    • The article Baroque uses the, so, I'm not sure on this one.
      • Well once you have the word Ukrainian in it, there's a whole new story. The article Baroque architecture also doesn't begin with "The" either. GeraldWL 13:08, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
        • Fixed. Let me know if you spot any other things to fix. --Tone 15:44, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Gerald Waldo Luis: Checked! Comments inline above. --Tone 12:24, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      • Looks all good! Now onto the descriptions; there's not much comments either just some minors. GeraldWL 06:56, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • "including various Christian groups, Muslims, and Jews." --> "including various Christian, Muslim, and Jewish groups." Or should it?
    • I think this is ok, as Christian groups refers to Catholic, Orthodox, etc., as opposed to Muslims and Jews.
  • Remove the "the" before "Earth" per the article.
  • "The World Heritage Site includes 34 points in ten countries"-- Digitize "ten"?
  • Should "North to South" be decap-sed or is the status quo fine?
    • I think this is ok.
  • "9th to the 13th centuries"-- "to the" should be replaced with an emdash, as there's duplicate "to the"-s in one sentence just a word apart.
  • "as well as auxiliary buildings and inner courtyards and parks" --> "as well as auxiliary buildings, inner courtyards, and parks"
  • "while the exterior has been renovated in the Baroque style" --> "while the exterior has been renovated in Baroque style"
  • "it is the world's largest building in the constructivist style" --> "it is the world's largest building in Constructivist style"
  • Support. Another amazing work! And very interesting timing. GeraldWL 08:29, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Source review edit
  • Ref#1: Link archived in 2016, retrieved in 2010?
    • This is probably fine, as this is a general UNESCO reference.
  • Suggesting to be consistent whether the titles of web pages need to be in title case or sentence case. We have both "Ancient City of Tauric Chersonese and its Chora" and "The historical surroundings of Crimean Khans' capital in Bakhchysarai"
    • I am following the source, including the capitalizations and quotes.
  • "National Steppe Biosphere Reserve "Askaniya Nowa"", "Archaeological Site "Stone Tomb"", etc. — I guess that quotes inside quotes take single quotations.
    • You mean in the references? This is the way this is formatted, but I agree it looks awkward. I'd leave it as it is.
  • "of the 6th - 16th c." " — should be en-dash
    • Fixed.
  • "while still officially being a Union Republic of the Soviet Union (prior to its dissolution in 1991)." — source?
    • Ukraine ratified the convention per 1988 source. Should I source the fact that the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991?
      • If it is in the article, then yes, it needs to be cited. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 10:39, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rest, everything looks good. The set precedent is that UNESCO sources are fine for UNESCO lists.
  • Side note: Can we have a better short description than "Wikipedia list article"?
    • I'm not the one adding those, but I am open to suggestions :)
  • Side note 2: Really nice timing!

– Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 07:06, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Promoting. --PresN 16:26, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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