Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Washington College alumni/archive1

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List of Washington College alumni edit

Featured list candidates/List of Washington College alumni/archive1

Nominator(s): Guerillero | Parlez Moi 06:38, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because after much research I think I have listed all of the notable Alumni of Washington College. I modeled the formatting and organization after several existing FLs and I think this lives up to the MOS --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 06:38, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:06, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

*Comments

- Some of this may well be down to my (lack of) understanding of the US university system (I am UK-based), in which case I apologise..... ;-)
- "The college was founded in 1782 by William Smith, but is the successor institution to the earlier Kent County Free School which was founded in 1732" - source?
  - Done --In actu (Guerillero) ^{Parlez Moi} 22:12, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- "The college continued to admit subfreshman" => "The college continued to admit subfreshmen"
  - Done --In actu (Guerillero) ^{Parlez Moi} 15:22, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- What is a preparatory department?
  - From my understand, it was the faculty that taught students that needed to take remedial classes to be freshmen (subfreshmen). I'm used to colleges having prep schools. I wasn't used to the prep school being treated as another college department before I wrote this article. --In actu (Guerillero) ^{Parlez Moi} 15:22, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- "Several alumni who were successful writers including" => "Several alumni were successful writers including""
  - Done --In actu (Guerillero) ^{Parlez Moi} 15:22, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- "A "†" indicates final year attended" - not sure what this means - does this mean that the person did not graduate?
  - Yes. Should it be something like "A "†" indicates the final year that a non-graduating alumnus attended the college." ? --In actu (Guerillero) ^{Parlez Moi} 15:22, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - Yes, that would clarify it I think -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:29, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      - Done --In actu (Guerillero) ^{Parlez Moi} 17:09, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- "A "M" indicates a Master's alumni." - "alumni" is plural, so this should be "alumnus"
  - Done --In actu (Guerillero) ^{Parlez Moi} 15:22, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Three of the notes re: symbols have a full stop but the last does not - as they are all complete sentences they should all have one
  - Since it was only for one alumnus, I moved the symbol to a note to clarify an inconstancy in the sourcing --In actu (Guerillero) ^{Parlez Moi} 15:22, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- What is a class year?
  - The year that someone graduated or left the college. --In actu (Guerillero) ^{Parlez Moi} 15:22, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - Any chance of a footnote to explain that? Or wikilink the column header to somewhere appropriate? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:29, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      - Done I added a note --In actu (Guerillero) ^{Parlez Moi} 17:09, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Any reason that you specify a role which Linda Hamilton played but don't do it for Laura San Giacomo?
  - Done that was an oversight. --In actu (Guerillero) ^{Parlez Moi} 15:22, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- "Biochemist that discovered discovered sodium-glucose cotransport" => "Biochemist who discovered sodium-glucose cotransport"
  - Done --In actu (Guerillero) ^{Parlez Moi} 15:22, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Bibliography should go before individual refs
  - Notes, footnotes, then bibliography looks like the standard way of doing this (Gropecunt Lane, Gunpowder Plot, and List of National Defence Academy alumni). Is there a MOS Page that outlines the order? --In actu (Guerillero) ^{Parlez Moi} 22:44, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - I don't know, but to me it looks odd that you have refs like "Dumschott 1980, pp. 9-10" and then you have to scroll much further down to find out what "Dumschott" actually is...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:26, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      - Its the format that I have used for most of the articles that I have worked on (Good Old Mountain Dew, The Bourgeois Blues, Pittsburgh Town, Richard Withers, and Margaret McKenna). --In actu (Guerillero) ^{Parlez Moi} 15:22, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Think that's it from me......... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:31, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:33, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

*Comments

- I forgot to look at the refs earlier......
- Inconsistent use of date formats - some are in US format but others in UK format. Ref 10 has both in the same citation. There's also some that look like 2020-1-30.
- Some refs (eg all the Biographical Directory of the United States Congress ones) have no access date at all.
- Newspapers (eg Baltimore Sun, Wall St Journal) should be in italics.
- Ref 71 has a publication date which hasn't been included.
Check for consistent formatting and all appropriate fields being completed..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:12, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I did a scrub of the citations, and I think I hit everything. I added an additional non-Washington College citation for Benjamin H. Vandervoort, so now there is a third party citation for everything --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 02:47, 31 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - @ChrisTheDude: I took another look at the citations, and I think I fixed the problems --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 04:52, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 26 should have publisher=US Lacrosse rather than website=Hall of Fame Inductees
Ref 46 has no publication date or access date
Think that's it -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:36, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChrisTheDude: Done --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 01:26, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:27, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Giants2008 (Talk) 23:12, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

The hyphens before and after the list of modern college classes in the first paragraph should be en dashes per the MoS.
- Done --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 02:19, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Does the first word of "State Senators" really need to be capitalized? It doesn't sound like a proper noun in this context.
- Done --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 02:19, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In the tables, I'd suggest changing the Reference headings to Reference(s) to cover the cases where more than one cite is needed.
- Done --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 02:19, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Athletics: In the John Howard description, the second word of "Head Coach" probably shouldn't be capitalized.
- Done --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 02:19, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Law and government: All of the year ranges here need en dashes for style.
- Done --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 02:19, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Other: The William O. Baker description also needs an en dash for its date range.
- Done --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 02:19, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
For the James A. Adkins description, we do have an Adjutant General of Maryland article if you want to link to it.
- Done --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 02:19, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Notes b, d, e, f, and g: In this context, the correct phrasing is "first season in MLB", not "in the MLB".
- Done --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 02:19, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Giants2008: Do you have a preference between MLB and Major League Baseball for the footnote? --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 02:22, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - Upon seeing both of them, I actually prefer the spelled-out version. Giants2008 (Talk) 23:18, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      - Done --In actu (Guerillero) ^{Parlez Moi} 22:07, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You're going to despise me for this one, as changing these is a giant pain in the butt, but given that this is an article about a U.S. college, it should likely be using MDY date formatting in the references, not the international style DMY that is currently being used. Giants2008 (Talk) 00:30, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I prefer to use international dates. I find them to be clearer than the US style. Would you like me to change them. Its going to be painful --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 02:19, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - If you really don't want to, I won't be a stickler about it. Please note that I saw the other responses above but haven't reviewed them in detail yet, as I'm feeling a bit under the weather today. Giants2008 (Talk) 23:18, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support – My comments have been satisfactorily addressed. Giants2008 (Talk) 23:12, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Medusa

Add a better short description. Rather than "Wikimedia list article".
- "Alumni of private liberal arts college in Chestertown, Maryland" --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 14:47, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
There are two alt for images. One empty and one used, any reason for this?
- I am using Example text on all of the images. There should only be one alt text. I think the tool is showing the captions --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 14:47, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
title=Kenneth M. Merz Jr. Named New Editor Of The Journal Of Chemical Information & Modeling → title=Kenneth M. Merz Jr. Named New Editor of the Journal of Chemical Information & Modeling
- Done --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 14:47, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
nine [[State senator|state Senators]] → nine [[State senator]]s
- Done --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 14:47, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
|website=Washington College |publisher=Washington College → just use the publisher
- Done --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 14:47, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
journal=Paris Review|date=1978 → journal=The Paris Review|year=1978
- year vs date is a personal style issue, not done --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 14:47, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
subfreshman → sub-freshmen
- Done --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 14:47, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
A "M" indicates a Master's alumnus. → An
- Done --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 14:47, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Maryland state Senator → Maryland State Senator
- Done --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 14:47, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
New York state Senator → New York State Senator
- Done --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 14:47, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Psychology at University of Bristol → Psychology at the University of Bristol
- Done --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 14:47, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In the ref, there are eg. date=1978 they should be changed to year=
- I disagree. This is a personal style issue. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 14:47, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In the table there are eg. Writer, and Poet in the Notability section. Can you expand them?
- None of their books are notable, but they are notable for being a writer
Consider archiving sources.
- Is there a script that does that? --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 14:47, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Guerillero: Yea, use this Tool. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 17:26, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - @CAPTAIN MEDUSA: Done --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 17:35, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Lists of people by educational affiliation in Maryland|Washington College should be the first category. Than Category:Lists of people by university or college in Maryland .....
- Done --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 14:47, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's it from me. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 13:04, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have replied, CAPTAIN MEDUSA --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 14:47, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I support this for promotion. I would appreciate your thoughts on Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Ayushmann Khurrana performances/archive1. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 18:24, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed, promoting. --Pres N 02:39, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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