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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 12:26, 21 February 2024 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of WNBA seasons

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Nominator(s): SounderBruce 03:44, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Two days ago, I was puzzled to find that this list had no lead nor citations, so I took it upon myself to improve it to a good standard despite my relative lack of knowledge about basketball. In time for the 29th WNBA season, I present a list that I think is now worthy of featured status, and has been crafted by looking at works best in other FLs about sports league seasons. SounderBruce 03:44, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comment
As of the 28th season in 2024, each team plays 40 games during the regular season, which runs from May to September and includes a month-long break for the 2024 Summer Olympics that begins after the annual WNBA All-Star Game. This sentence is a bit odd given that the olympics aren't there every year. Maybe split into two? Nice improvement otherwise, especially since it was in just two days. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:58, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Went ahead and fixed that; once the 2025 schedule is released, I'll make it more clear that the Olympic breaks are a quadrennial thing. SounderBruce 05:02, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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Hey man im josh

Notes:

  • Ref 2 and 7 need |url-access=subscription
  • Have you considered running iabot bot to archive the links?
  • Could you add a wikilink to the first occurrence in the references for Basketball-Reference.com?

Source review: Pending

  • Reliable enough for the information being cited
  • Consistent date formatting
  • Consistent and proper reference formatting
  • Appropriate wikilinks where applicable
  • Spot checks on 10 sources match what they are being cited for

Looks good otherwise though, great job SounderBruce! Hey man im josh (talk) 01:05, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Added "access=limited" to the NY Times and Washington Post sources since they do sometimes show those articles for free (hence why I was able to use them without a subscription). Added the link for B-R.com as well. I'll run IAbot in a few days once the IA crawler finishes archiving some of these sources, since it is probably too soon. SounderBruce 04:09, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:49, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from TheDoctor Who
  • The NBA version of this article exists at List of National Basketball Association seasons. Is there a reason that this article isn't at List of Women's National Basketball Association seasons or that the former isn't at List of NBA seasons? I won't oppose the article because of this, I'm just genuinely curious for consistency purposes.
    • WNBA is the more common name for the league, and the article was already at this title; since it also matches the season article format, I think it fits better than the long-form (and perhaps the NBA ones should be moved to match).
  • "As of the 28th season in 2024, each team plays" -> "As of the 2024 WNBA season each team plays"; just for consistency, all of the other seasons are written in this format, it feels weird that you refer to this season as the 28th when none of the other are referred to as the 1st, 15th, etc.
    • Would prefer to keep this, as the number of years since the first season isn't explicitly stated elsewhere.
  • "Following the change in NBA ownership in 2002, the WNBA lost two teams; the league later lost two teams by 2006 but expanded to remain at 13 teams." I'd split this sentence at the semicolon and start a new sentence after, the part that reads "the WNBA lost two teams; the league later lost two teams by 2006" tripped me up at first.
    • Fixed.
  • "Teams play four games against opponents in the same conference and two teams from the other conference and three games against the remaining four teams.", remaining four teams from what? There's only two conferences and those are already mentioned.
    • Split, but the "other conference" was supposed to cover both.
  • "an in-season tournament first played in 2021" -> "an in-season tournament first played in 2021", linking the specific page for that cup
    • Added, but in a shorter form.
  • "who have each won four WNBA champions" -> "who have each won four WNBA championships"
    • Fixed.
  • I would consider renaming the "List" header "WNBA Seasons" and then using {{Screen reader-only}} to hide the table caption
    • Added the hidden caption and changed the header to just "Seasons".
  • {{TBA}} can be used to fill in the empty gaps for the 2024 season at the end of the table, it feels a little strange to have empty cells
    • Used {{n/a}} instead to not add too much color to the table.
  • "Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the 2020" -> "Due to the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on basketball, the 2020", a more specific link seems like it would be helpful here given that the WNBA is mentioned in the second linked article
    • Linked to the article, but would prefer to keep the pipe short.
  • ESPN should be linked in references 6, 14
  • The Athletic should be linked in references 9, 12, 20, 21
  • The Seattle Times should be linked in reference 16
  • USA Today should be linked in reference 17
  • The Guardian should be linked in reference 22
  • Women's National Basketball Association should be linked in reference 25
  • USA Today should be linked in reference 50
  • Las Vegas Review-Journal should be linked in reference 54
  • Building on the above, Basketball-Reference.com can be linked in all sources that use it (Per MOS:REFLINK "Citations stand alone in their usage, so there is no problem with repeating the same link in many citations within an article", for all the above)
    • I prefer not to repeat links in the citations section, mainly to help save readers from the sea of blue that would result. My reading of MOS:REFLINK says that it's fine either way (as long as it's consistent).
  • {{Official website}} is available if you want it, its optional not a make or break for me
    • Don't think it's necessary in this case.

Great work on the list! TheDoctorWho (talk) 06:44, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TheDoctorWho: Thanks for the comments. I've addressed them above and made several changes. SounderBruce 08:27, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Satisfies me, the references weren't a huge issue for me either, and the quoted part of the guideline leaves it up to personal preference. Support. TheDoctorWho (talk) 08:37, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 03:21, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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