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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Matthewedwards 05:45, 28 February 2009 [1].

List of Metroid media edit

Nominator(s): igordebraga ≠, Gary King (talk)
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After finding an article that was a simple list of games (already found somewhere else), I decided to expand and put info on other Metroid media, that doesn't get much attention in the games and series' articles. I tried to mirror the style of the other video game media FLs, and did a Peer Review to search for problems and possible improvements. Now let's see if the article is good enough to enter the Featured Lists. igordebraga ≠ 23:36, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Why are the left and right table margins for the games sections different than the rest of the tables? --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 00:24, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Truco

Weak Oppose/Comments from Truco (talk · contribs) -- Due to prose issues.

Lead
  • Metroid is a video game series published by Nintendo and originally created by Nintendo's R&D1 development team. -- Originally? This sounds as if it has another "creator", what are you trying to say?
  • The series debuted in Japan with Metroid (メトロイド, Metoroido?) on August 6, 1986, and was later released in North America and PAL regions. -- its best to state when it was released in the other regions.
  • Metroid is one of Nintendo's most successful franchises, with 14 million units sold, and all the games have received some level of critical acclaim. -- some is really weasely, how about 'a level of critical acclaim'?
  • The lead needs to summarize the list itself more. The first game in the series was released, but the most recent or other significant releases need to be mentioned as well, this is a standard for all FLs.
    • Added the most recent title.
Video games
  • Many of the notes need to be copyedit, some are not complete sentence and thus do not warrant a full stop. Others need to be reworded, like the second note of the first game; it can be reworded to read as a complete sentence.
    • Refer to the soundtrack notes as a point of reference, see how those don't have stops? That's because they aren't complete statements, the same should be applied to the above.
Comic books
  • I don't understand the release date format February–May 1994? What does this mean, since it isn't noted about different release regions.
    • "Nintendo Power, Issues #57–61". It's the timespan where all the mentioned issues were released.
Manga
  • 18-page adaptation, consisting of comedic strips with four panels. -- this is an example of an incomplete statement, which is why it should be reworded or the period (full stop) should be removed.
    • Just as a point-of-reference: The first two chapters of Volume 1 received an online version with color and sound effects. -- this is complete statement.
References
  • If you're going to link GameSpot, you may as well link the other publishers like IGN.--TRUCO 22:47, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Done all, warn me of other sentences that don't need punctuation. igordebraga ≠ 00:14, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Further comments
  • Remove the full stops
  • The third note in the first entry in the first subsection.
  • Second note in third entry in the first subsection.
  • First note of the fourth entry in the first subsection.
  • The last entry of the first subsection, Remake of Metroid, with improved graphics, new gameplay features and areas to explore. Also has the original game as an unlockable extra -- The first period should be a semicolon, and the last one should be removed or the entire thing should be reworded into a complete statement.
  • The first note of the first soundtrack entry.
  • The first note of the second entry in the Manga section.
  • The note in the last entry in the Manga section.
  • The first note of the fourth entry of the second subsection.
These are all not complete statements because they don't contain the proper clauses.--TRUCO 21:39, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Removed them all, and also changed punctuation in the mentioned sentence. igordebraga ≠ 00:38, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- Previous issues resolved to meet WP:WIAFL standards.--TRUCO 01:24, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support Comments - It may be just me but there seems to be a lack of references, eg:

  • The comics book section is lacking references for the creative team and the release dates
    • It's covered in the refs for the stories themselves; but added to two as it doesn't show the date
  • Manga doesnt reference the release dates
    • Despite one I needed to add, it's covered in the refs inside the "Notes" section.
  • In the video games some of the sentences arent referenced like Metroid Prime is the first 3D game in the series, Metroid Prime 2: Echoes first multiplayer in the series, Metroid Prime Hunters first with online multiplayer
    • The Castlevania list linked above shows not anything needs refs, but added.
  • Soundtracks section doesnt reference the composers.
    • Added refs to the games themselves (composers are listed in the credits). igordebraga ≠ 03:52, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Salavat (talk) 01:40, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well with no other issues that i can see and to me the lead reads fine to me now, ive changed my comments to a support. Salavat (talk) 06:52, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Just curious under the comics section you only list 3 stories by Valient Comics. How come Samus Aran's Starship Hunter IV isnt listed there to? Salavat (talk) 03:03, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's not an adaptation of the game, as the title mentions, it's just an analysis of Samus' ship. igordebraga ≠ 05:56, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:15, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)
Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
  • I would much prefer to see spaced en dashes used in listing items of items, they are less abrupt and look neater here.
    • I beg your pardon?
      • Instead of "1987—Nintendo Entertainment System", I would prefer the more visually appealing "1987 – Nintendo Entertainment System". Dabomb87 (talk) 22:37, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Currently, the franchise consists of ten video games, with the latest installment being Metroid Prime 3: Corruption for the Wii. " Two ideas here that are clumsily connected and aren't that closely related.
  • "dating from the Nintendo Entertainment System to the current generation of video game consoles." Redundant phrase
    • Why? (also, borrowed it from somewhere)
      • Disregard this, I wasn't reading the sentence correctly. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:37, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The 2D Metroid games are side-scrollers, and the 3D games, also known as the Metroid Prime series, give the player a first-person perspective." Contrary to what I usually say, I think "and"-->while to emphasize their differences.
  • "and all the games have received a level of critical acclaim." Not sure what that means.

Dabomb87 (talk) 01:39, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:15, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dabomb87 (talk) 01:39, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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