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List of Leeteuk performances

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Nominator(s): Lulusword (talk) 20:24, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because he is a prominent figure in South Korean entertainment industry, having an extensive filmography. I have been working on this article since January, and I believe it has meet the criteria. Lulusword (talk) 20:24, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:22, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
;Comments on the lead
  • His stage and real names should not be in bold
  • No reason for comma after the brackets with his date of birth
  • "and acted in several films television dramas" - there's a comma missing here somewhere
  • "He made his television debut through bit part apprearance" => "He made his television debut with a bit part appearance" (note that the last word was spelt incorrectly)
  • "He had since acted" => "He has since acted"
  • "Super Junior Mini-Drama (2006) Super Junior's Music Diary (2007)" - comma missing
  • "which aired on selected screens" - TV screens? Cinema screens? What does this actually mean?
  • "which lead him" => "which led him"
  • "in variety show category" => "in the variety show category"
  • "the 60th anniversary the Korean War armistice" => "the 60th anniversary of the Korean War armistice"
  • "He had hosted the competition eight times" => "He has hosted the competition eight times"
  • "which had since grew" => "which has since grown"
  • "South Korean cooking show, The Best Cooking Secrets" - no need for that comma
  • "he frequently hosts the South Korean awards ceremony" => "he frequently hosts South Korean awards ceremonies"
  • "such as Melon Music Awards" => "such as the Melon Music Awards"
  • "He had hosted multiple concert events" => "He has hosted multiple concert events"
  • Think that's it on the lead. I will look at the tables later..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:29, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for the comment. I've fixed all the bits you point out. Lulusword (talk) 10:31, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comments on the tables
  • Refs should be centre-aligned
  • All the table headings should be plural, not singular, so "Films" not "Film", etc
  • "apart of MBC's Triple Drama slot" => "a part of MBC's Triple Drama slot"
  • All the TV dramas are television shows, so titling the next table "television shows" is wrong. In fact, all the TV shows should probably be in a single table. If you really want to keep them separate then you should title the second one "Other television shows".
  • "We Got Married (Season 3)" - the specific season should not be mentioned in the first column. See, for example, Woody Harrelson filmography, which just lists him as appearing in Cheers, not Cheers (seasons 4-11)
  • "episode 104 – 132." => "episodes 104 – 132."
  • "I Can See Your Voice (Season 1–7)" - again, don't put the seasons in the first column
  • "episode 234 and 235" => "episodes 234 and 235"
  • "Law of The Jungle in Papua New Guinea (episode 216 - 219)" => "Law of The Jungle in Papua New Guinea (episodes 216 - 219)"
  • "We Got Married (Season 4)" - again, don't list the season
  • "Featured host for Chuseok special episode, (episode 338), " - don't need those commas
  • "Please Take Care of My Vanity (Season 2 and 3)" - again, remove the seasons
  • "Host on episode 10" => "Host of episode 10"
  • "Host on episode 6" => "Host of episode 6"
  • "SJ Returns (Season 1 – 4)" - as above. If you think it is appropriate to mention the season(s) for all these shows, it should be in the third column.
  • "Super TV (Season 1 and 2)" - same again
  • "Real Life Men and Women (Season 2)" - same again
  • "Hidden Track (Season 1 and 2)" - same again
  • "Leeteuk with co-host, Itzy's Lia at the 9th Gaon Chart Music Awards red carpet" => "Leeteuk with co-host, Itzy's Lia, at the 9th Gaon Chart Music Awards red carpet"
  • In the See also section, put a bullet point before the link
  • None of the notes are complete sentences, so they should not end in full stops
  • "honorably completed their military services" => "honorably completed their military service"
  • "Apart of the annual outdoor music festival" => "A part of the annual outdoor music festival"
  • Think that's it -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:14, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I've merge the tables for television shows and made the corrections. It does look better in one huge table. Lulusword (talk) 13:27, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The only outstanding thing I can see is that the notes are not complete sentences, so should not have full stops. I did mention this above, but they are still there. -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:39, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I must have overlooked them. I've fix the issue now, hopefully I didn't miss anything else. Lulusword (talk) 08:35, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Bilorv

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(Intending to claim WikiCup points for this review.)

  • "K-pop boy band Super Junior" is a sea of blue that could be remedied by unlinking boy band.
  • The lead should be at most four paragraphs long; I'd recommend merging the last two paragraphs and listing fewer award/concert hostings.
  • The "Television shows" has a hardcoded width in pixels that makes it very thin on my monitor, and very wide when I minimise the screen. By removing this width specification, it makes the tables display appropriately on a wider range of monitors and web browsers.
  • I'd expect each table to be sortable by every column other than "Ref", particularly useful for sorting "Television shows" by name or network.
  • Some tables use "Ref." and some use "Ref" but I think all should use {{Abbr|Ref.|References}}.
  • Each table should have a caption (achieved by |+ Title of the table) e.g. "List of Leeteuk performances in film" for accessibility reasons (so people who use screen readers know what the table is about).
  • Should The Best Cooking Secrets be "2017 – present" rather than "2017 – 2020" (like the value below it)?
  • Super Junior Kiss the Radio should use "2006–2011, 2016" rather than "2006–2011; 2016" (for consistency).
  • When are networks linked and when are they not (e.g. SBS isn't for Salamander Guru and The Shadows but is in the following Star King)?
  • Why is File:20180820 Leeteuk ISAC Chuseok Special.png displayed at a size considerably smaller than the image above it?
  • I'm not a fan of File:Leeteuk Analog Trip press conference (cropped).png, which looks a bit bad quality to me, and has logos and is very tall. I'd suggest removing, but if it is to be kept, could it be cropped (to a similar body portion as the other images)?
  • ... to celebrate those who had honorably completed their military service is not neutral, and I think the note could be removed completely as it doesn't give any more information than the title "Military Service Awards".

Thanks for your work on the list. — Bilorv (Black Lives Matter) 15:59, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Bilorv, thank you for the comment. I've fixed most of the things you point out but as I can only edit on mobile, I am not sure how the layout looks now as I can only rely on "view on desktop site" setting. The table was hard coded with pixel mainly because it is quite large and take up the whole space, but since you pointed out the issue, I have move the pictures to the top of the table. I also changed the Analog Trip press conference image with a better quality image. Is that okay? Leeteuk's departure from The Best Cooking Secrets had been announced and the last episode featuring him will air on July, so I use "2017–2020" as the year range, while SJ Return is still filming, with episodes written up to January/February 2021 and does not have confirmation on when the season will end, so I use "2017–present" for it. Is that okay or should I still use "2017–present" for both of them? Lulusword (talk) 09:08, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, I've made one edit about the refs being unsortable here but otherwise everything has been suitably addressed—thanks for those answers. Probably good that these tables have been designed with mobile foremost as that's where most of our readers are viewing, and it does look good on my desktop at least. Support (with references taken on good faith as I can't speak Korean). — Bilorv (Black Lives Matter) 19:02, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from TRM

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WikiCup entry

  • "He had hosted" has.
  • "which were screened in selected cinemas." where is this cited?
  • "a host when he hosted t" repetitive.
  • "he enlisted in the military" shouldn't that really be "he was conscripted into"?
  • I'm not sure about this, because news article always used the term "enlist" when Korean entertainers go into the military, I rarely sees the term conscription. Should I change it, regardless? Lulusword (talk) 07:18, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "He started hosting" why not just "He hosted"?
  • Film title should be the row scope, not the year of release.
  • Television shows, don't use colour alone to denote something, per MOS:COLOR, a symbol as well please.
  • Note column need not be sortable as it's free text, not useful.
  • Sortable table needs each linkable item to be linked every time as after sorting you aren't sure which one lists first.
  • Television show title should be the row scope.
  • Tables with one entry need not be sortable, looks silly.
  • Spaced hyphens should be en-dashes per MOS:DASH.

That's it on a first pass. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 10:23, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Quick comment – I haven't done a full review of the sources, but on a glance I can see that references 5 and 6 have all caps in the titles, which should be removed per the Manual of Style. Giants2008 (Talk) 15:27, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Source review - Pass

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  • A lot of sources! From a first glance it looks like you've included translated titles and "in Korean" markings so that's awesome to see. Anyways, doing (full) source review now Aza24 (talk) 06:36, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • ref 4 missing date
  • Ref 15 shouldn't be in all caps, per WP:MOS (as far as I remember at least)
  • ref 2 in 50 missing author
  • refs 79 and 80 missing authors (at bottom of page)
  • is there a reason is "Naver news" for refs 25 and 49a instead of just "Naver" like the rest?
  • Ugh I hate to call you attention to a tedious task, but most of the "Naver" sources are missing the authors. This may because some of them are at the end of the articles
  • In fact, it looks like a lot of refs are missing authors (probably because a lot are like the above, at the end of the page), if you want we could split the refs in half and each go through checking for authors? The sources look good otherwise. Aza24 (talk) 07:05, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have some other things I'm in the middle of but I'd be able to go through the other half tomorrow. If you want to do so before then feel free to, but if not no worries. Aza24 (talk) 04:56, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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