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List of Kentucky Wildcats men's basketball head coaches

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Nominator(s): Newtothisedit (talk) 05:48, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kentucky has had 5 different coaches win national championships, the most of any college basketball program. I have improved this list to (hopefully) match the excellence of the coaches that have led Big Blue Nation. This article is modeled on List of North Carolina Tar Heels men's basketball head coaches, with a few improvements such as link fixes and the removal of defunct and/or minor coaching awards in an attempt to limit the page size. I look forward to any improvements you may have! Note: I have another FLC however said list has support already, all existing comments have been addressed and no new comments have been made in two months. Newtothisedit (talk) 05:48, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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  • Probably should mention somewhere that the team relates to the University of Kentucky
  • "In 1921 they would join" - why not just "In 1921 they joined"
  • "11 years later" - always better not to start a sentence with a number written in digits if possible
  • " from the program's inaugural 1903–1904 season to the current year, 2022–23" - any reason why the formats of the two seasons are different?
  • "a retroactive national championships" - a (singular) championships (plural) doesn't sound right to me, unless it's an Americanism of which I am not aware......?
  • "Eklund is the teams all-time leader" => "Eklund is the team's all-time leader"
  • "he has had held" - grammar's a bit mangled here
  • Names of coaches in the table should sort based on surname, not forename
  • Image captions which are complete sentences need a full stop (currently some have one but some don't)
  • That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:23, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved all comments--Newtothisedit (talk) 16:56, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)

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  • These apply to both the 'key' tables and the main one:
  • Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting |+ caption_text as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting |+ {{sronly|caption_text}} instead.
  • Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding !scope=col to each header cell, e.g. ! Name becomes !scope=col | Name. If the cell spans multiple columns with a colspan, then use !scope=colgroup instead.
  • Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding !scope=row to each primary cell, e.g. | align="center" | {{nts|1}} becomes !scope=row align="center" | {{nts|1}}. If the cell spans multiple rows with a rowspan, then use !scope=rowgroup instead.
  • Something is messed up with the images on the side- for me there's the key tables with white space next to them, then the line of images with a huge white space on the left of them, then the table. At no resolution can I get the images to be next to either table.
  • Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. --PresN 18:06, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I believe I have fixed all of the issues present Newtothisedit (talk) 16:41, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Z1720

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Non-expert prose review:

  • "The program has played over 3,100 games across 113 seasons from the program's inaugural 1903–04 season to the most recent year, 2022–23." Suggest that the current information, like the number of games and link to the most recent year, be removed per MOS:CURRENT as it will have to be continuously updated.

Image review:

  • No concerns about copyright.
  • Typically, galleries are discouraged on Wikipedia articles, but in this case I am OK with it because the article only has 5/22 coaches with pictures. However, if more images are found I suggest that the images are placed in the chart in their own column.
    • I intentionally rounded to the nearest 100 games, so that it will only need to be updated once a year when a new season begins.--Newtothisedit (talk) 16:45, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Source review, version reviewed

  • Suggest archiving the sources using IABot
  • What makes coachesdatabase.com a high-quality source? I cannot find editorial information about their authors, and the copyright leads to a marketing company website.

Those are my thoughts. Z1720 (talk) 16:58, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Z1720 I believe that I have addressed everything. Newtothisedit (talk) 16:46, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Source review #2: version reviewed

  • Ref 12: Today should not be in all caps per MOS:ALLCAPS
  • No concerns with references. Since the above is a minor quibble that can be quickly fixed, I can support. Z1720 (talk) 02:01, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from PMC

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Continuing my project of reviewing FLCs to get this queue moving:

  • You've linked Rupp twice in the lead. I see why you did it, for consistency with the other championship coaches in the second instance, but I'm not sure it's necessary.
    • Fixed
  • I might use the {{as of}} template for the current head coach. Per MOS:REALTIME, it's better to be precise so statements don't become dated.
    • Added
  • Otherwise I don't really have any prose gripes, I think they've been ironed out by other comments.
  • Key is clear, and thank you especially for the table with the abbreviations for the awards, as they are helpful for those with no knowledge of NCAA Basketball (ie, me)
  • I agree that the gallery is suitable since it's only a few specific high-achieving coaches.
  • You may want to link publishers in the sources - it's not mandatory and I won't fuss about it, but it would be helpful as many are bluelinks.
    • Added

Generally looking quite good and really not much to gripe about! ♠PMC♠ (talk) 19:40, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Premeditated Chaos I believe I have fixed everything. Newtothisedit (talk) 16:29, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Then I'm a support! ♠PMC♠ (talk) 16:54, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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