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List of Game of Thrones episodes edit

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Nominator(s): AffeL (talk) 10:03, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I think it meets the criteria and because I have worked on this article and being that this is the biggest series of all time has inspired me push to get this list to FL. AffeL (talk) 10:03, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Cheetah (talk)
  • Comments I just want to mention two issues that I noticed by a glance. First, the lead is way too short for the biggest series of all time. Second, the colors look so much alike. If only you could change it up a bit.--Cheetah (talk) 20:31, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Crzycheetah: The colors is suppose to fit the season articles, the official posters/cover of the season. For example, Game of Thrones (season 4) is black, because the official DVD/Bluray cover is black and Game of Thrones (season 5) is Gold, because of same reason. And I will work on the lead. I just saw that List of Supernatural episodes is a Featured Article with a short lead and I thought it could be enough. But I will try add more to the lead. - AffeL (talk) 22:53, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
First and Sixth episode's colors look the same to me, but I understand the reasoning. That Supernatural list passed back in 2009. I'd suggest to use the most recent featured list as an example.--Cheetah (talk) 01:18, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Crzycheetah: I wrote some more info in the lead. Is it enough, or do I need to add more?. - AffeL (talk) 18:13, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It's fine. Thanks, I'll come back later and do a thorough review.--Cheetah (talk) 18:56, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Currently, this list meets the FL criteria, even though it should exceed it. I am just wondering if there are any mobisodes, webisodes, or some other type of special episodes. Take for example the Lost list. --Cheetah (talk) 01:52, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Crzycheetah: There are no webisodes or any any other special kind of episode for this series.. that I know of AffeL (talk) 10:56, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That is correct. All the promotional content has been presented as part of subsequent episodes. Jclemens (talk) 21:55, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just a note that, yes, while the article may deserve to become FL status, it is far from being "the biggest series of all time". A definite exaggeration there. Alex|The|Whovian? 22:22, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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lol. then what is?? Doctor Who?.. hahaha.. give me a break man. Until you can find a show more successful and popular than GoT, then it's definitely not an exaggeration. Just let it go man. AffeL (talk) 22:31, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Your uncivil tone just makes me want to oppose this nomination. I could name a dozen series that has had more viewers, constant critical acclaim, and have run far longer than Game of Thrones. It's a popular series, and that's as far as it goes. Just let it go indeed. Alex|The|Whovian? 22:33, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"Your uncivil tone just makes me want to oppose this nomination". How professionell of you. But whatever.. you can have your own opinion, just keep calm, relax and don't get so emotional for nothing?. I just figured that when a series is the ranked the number one most talked about show on social media(Facebook, Twitter) and having won more Emmys than any other Drama Series. Record breaking viewership for HBO(Payed Cable). Also the most pirated show of all time, three times more pirated than the second most pirated series(The Walking Dead). Also being critical acclaimed and having the biggest budget of any series ever, and just because a show has "run far longer", does not make it any bigger. I believed that was enough for me to refer it as "the biggest series of all time"?. But no worries, you can think what you want. It is for the best that we just move on and let it go. Sorry for whatever I did that made you so mad.. AffeL (talk) 22:55, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I could provide series that rival almost every point you gave (for example, ER had a per-episode budget over twice that of GoT), but I'll leave you to your fan-based beliefs. Enjoy the series. Alex|The|Whovian? 22:58, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Okey.. I just stated facts and you called it "fan-based beliefs". But no problem man, let's just agree to disagree. I really don't want to argue over something this stupid. AffeL (talk) 23:05, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hey guys, we should calm this down a notch and just focus on the goal that is trying to be achieved here: getting this to FL. Whether or not it is the biggest series of all time, it is no doubt among the biggest. I'm not sure how the nominators comment about this should affect the list in any way. Burklemore1 (talk) 02:40, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comments by Burklemore1
  • A nice list, though a few issues with the lead.
  • "The series start when"... -> "The series starts when..."
Fixed AffeL (talk) 11:18, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • "David Benioff and D. B. Weiss serves as executive producers along with..." What about "David Benioff and D. B. Weiss both serve as executive producers along with..."
Fixed AffeL (talk) 11:18, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Filming for the series have took place primarily in Croatia, Northern Ireland, Iceland and Spain." What about "Filming for the series has took place in a number of locations, including Croatia, Northern Ireland, Iceland and Spain." By the way, I'm confident that countries don't need to be linked.
Fixed AffeL (talk) 11:18, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"Filming for the series has took place" is not correct English grammar at all. It should probably be "Filming for the series has taken place" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:20, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed, thanks AffeL (talk) 15:52, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Episodes are broadcast on Sunday at 9:00 pm Eastern Time, the episodes for season one to six have been between 50 to 69 minutes in length." What about "Episodes are broadcast on Sunday at 9:00 pm Eastern Time, and the episodes for season one to six are between 50 to 69 minutes in length."
Fixed AffeL (talk) 11:18, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • "As of June 26, 2016" Why not just June 2016 for that matter? Don't think we need to be really specific.
Fixed AffeL (talk) 11:18, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Please see the documentation at {{Aired episodes}}. This is the format agreed upon by the members of WP:TV, to include the date of the last-aired episode; if you believe that it doesn't need to be so specific, please create a discussion at WT:TV. Thank you. Alex|The|Whovian? 11:35, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have a terrible problem with it, it was more out of curiosity. I should also mention I am not familiar with the type of formats that are accepted or not. Thank you for the clarification though. Burklemore1 (talk) 12:24, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The series will conclude with its eighth season." When?
It will probably be in mid-2018, but that has not been confirmed. AffeL (talk) 11:18, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • David Benioff is linked multiple times: specifically for S2 EP1, S3 EP1, S4 EP1, S5 EP1 AND S6 EP1.
  • Same for D. B. Weiss, except for S4 EP1.
The reason they are linked multiple times, are because the table is from the season articles. Look at Game of Thrones (season 2) for an example. AffeL (talk) 11:18, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. Each writer/director is linked once in the respective season articles, which is then reflected in the main episode article. This hasn't seemed to affect other LoE pages becoming featured lists. Alex|The|Whovian? 11:37, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Reasonable enough. Burklemore1 (talk) 12:24, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Will continue later. Burklemore1 (talk) 03:54, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sources are good, external links also good, no dead links. Good job.
  • Since my final comments were on the dup links, I have become aware this is fine for these types of lists. Because of this, I no longer see any outstanding issues that could prevent this nomination from becoming a FL. I can now support this nomination. Great job! Burklemore1 (talk) 02:40, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Addressed comments from - Yellow Dingo (talk) 05:52, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • You link George R. R. Martin twice in the lead. Per WP:OVERLINK you shouldn't
  • "between 50 to 69" → "between 50 and 69"
  • "and will" → "which will"
  • "later than the" → "later in the year than the"
  • You overlink TV by the Numbers in the referencing section. It only needs to be linked once (at its first mention)
  • Same for TVShowsOnDVD.com

— Good job so far. A few small fixes needed to be made before I can support. - Yellow Dingo (talk) 07:27, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Yellow Dingo: I did all those things you asked AffeL (talk) 10:29, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Will do a source review at the soonest. - FrB.TG (talk) 17:18, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reliability - not sure about Zap2It (actually sure about this, definitely a bad one to use), and MetroNews.ca (the British newspaper is a very bad source; I am not expecting this one (if it's another version of the newspaper) to be any different). Have looked only until here; will post the rest tomorrow. – FrB.TG (talk) 17:24, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Zap2It has always been a reliable source in the Television WikiProject. Alex|The|Whovian? 01:07, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It seems like I mistook it for another not-permissible source here I myself used in a list of mine. - FrB.TG (talk) 17:42, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Okay here's the rest:

  • Formatting - from what I see you are practicing the 'link the publisher/website/work only on first instance', but you are very inconsistent as to when you link them. For example, The Guardian needs to be linked in ref 5, Entertainment Weekly needs to be delinked in ref 11 (already linked in ref 10), and as does TV by the Numbers in ref 47, 57, 67.
    • Ref 9 - Deadline => Deadline.com
  • Spotchecked the ratings section (at first I searched for the ratings but I couldn't find some numbers, but you practiced round-off there) and no issue.
  • I think you might need to provide a source in the end of first paragraph, in which it discusses the series' storyline. – FrB.TG (talk) 17:42, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@FrB.TG: TV by the Numbers is linked multiply times because it is linked once in the respective season articles, that is then reflected in the main episode article. - AffeL (talk) 18:50, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@FrB.TG: All done.. thanks. - AffeL (talk) 18:50, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi User:FrB.TG, I fixed all the things you said. Is there anything else? -- AffeL (talk) 23:44, 25 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No! - FrB.TG (talk) 07:34, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Closing as promoted. --PresN 16:02, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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