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The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 18:06, 5 May 2011 [1].

List of Chicago White Sox first-round draft picks edit

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Nominator(s): Wizardman 21:52, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For those of you that may not be fans of this baseball group, this is part 30 of 31, so worry not, we are just about done. For the rest of you, I present the Chicago White Sox draft pick list. They are actually one of the more successful teams draft-wise; 2/3 of their draft picks have made a major league roster, and one of them just won a World Series ring, though it was not exactly thanks to him.

I think I've earned a milkshake break. While I get one go ahead and comment :) Wizardman Operation Big Bear 21:52, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Images would benefit from alt text. Otherwise, the article is well marked up to maximise accessibility. I know nothing of the subject, so I had to follow a lot of links, but the balance is good between links and in-text explanations. Overall, it is an interesting read, well-referenced (if somewhat reliant on a major source), and visually appealing. --RexxS (talk) 22:39, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I don't know much of anything about alt text, and it's not required, so I won't worry about it unless someone else wants to add it. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 16:02, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Courcelles 04:23, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Courcelles 01:56, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Wondering if due to that team from the north-side an unmodified "Chicago" shouldn't be used here? (2nd para, 1st sentence)
Before TRM comes around, spell out MVP in the prose.
Don't you mean "Before The Rambling Man (TRM) comes around...."? The Rambling Man (talk) 11:41, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not if it's the lone mention. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 14:04, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not so sure about access dates that are eight months older than the list itself...

Courcelles 08:09, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 14:07, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments – Just a couple of small ones...

  • Comma after Jack McDowell would be nice in the lead.
  • In the key, an apostrophe should be added after White Sox in the championship definition. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 21:22, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Perhaps I missed this on (all of ??) the other lists but I think left/right handed pitchers should sort by pitcher, not by l for left or r for right. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:41, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yeah, it's been that way on all of them. I figured out how to make them sort as pitchers, but the lefties first, then the righties, so it should be good now. Courcelles 03:28, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Same as above FLC: it would be nice to have some quantification of a first round pick vs other rounds by say looking at the average salaries. Nergaal (talk) 04:49, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • And then? Draw our own conclusions? Looks like WP:OR to me. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:32, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • I've been having a good read, and, yes, it does appear that you have asked for original research to be inserted into three articles, Nergaal. This isn't the NBA, which has a fairly strict scale where your salary for the first few years depends on where you were drafted. Courcelles 08:08, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from KV5
  • Alt-text: remove periods/full stops from sentence fragments, one image is missing alt-text. Also, I'm not sure about the usefulness of the alt text. I hate to be a stickler, but how does a person who can't see know what "Frank Thomas, smiling and holding a red cup" looks like?
  • Superscript § indicator since it's at cap height.
  • Unspace the asterisks.

Other than these (admittedly very minor) comments, I can't find anything else to quibble with. — KV5 • Talk • 01:05, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. I'm not a fan of alt text myself and would have kept it out, but was requested earlier in the FLC. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 04:29, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It may be just me but why wouldn't something like "A bald black man in a vertically striped shirt, facing left, smiling and holding a mug" be of use to a blind person? Putting people's names in the alt text is a bit of a waste of time, particularly as his name is already mentioned in the caption. I know the subtleties of alt text leave most people cold, but I've always thought it better to have some rather than none. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:15, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough, went ahead and fixed that. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 17:42, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
All of the alt text, save for the lead image, still utilizes player names, which doesn't really tell a blind reader what the picture looks like. Anderson still doesn't have alt text. I have to leave for work now, but after work tonight, I can re-do the alt text in the interest of getting from FLC to FTC. — KV5 • Talk • 11:17, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What's the problem? WP:ALTTEXT gives the example of File:Blair Bush Whitehouse (2004-11-12).jpg's appropriate alt text being "Tony Blair and George W. Bush shaking hands at a press conference."- using their names. Courcelles 11:23, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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