Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Hutch Award/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Giants2008 17:10, 11 September 2012 [1].

Hutch Award

Featured list candidates/Hutch Award/archive1

Nominator(s): – Muboshgu (talk) 21:17, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I believe this is ready for FL status, or will be after things I missed are pointed out. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:17, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comments

Associated Press is the work for Ref 5, ESPN.com are the publisher
Why do external links have retrieved dates? Lemonade51 (talk) 21:28, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Right, both good catches. I corrected those issues. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:32, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Bloom6132 (talk) 04:21, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

There should be refs to an individual player's BR page. I know that there is a general BR ref in the External Links section, but it doesn't mention what team or position a player was when he won the award (i.e. the two other bits of info in the table that need to be sourced). —Bloom6132 (talk) 05:32, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Moyer has been a free agent for more than a month now. Doesn't that qualify him as being non-active? Or does he actually have to retire first before he is no longer designated as an active player? —Bloom6132 (talk) 17:34, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- He has publicly stated that he isn't retired, and is working on finding another job with any organization that will sign him. I'd consider him active until he says otherwise. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:42, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support – meets all 6 criteria. —Bloom6132 (talk) 04:21, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from NapHit (talk) 17:52, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"the former major league baseball..." shouldn't it be Major League Baseball, to be consistent with the one before?
I assume one of the external links is referencing the table? Currently it appears nothing is so would move whatever is referencing the table to a general ref and then have the rest of the refs under a header saying specific

NapHit (talk) 18:46, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

- Fixed the MLB issue. As for referencing the table, I'll do what Bloom6132 suggested soon, which will properly reference each award winner. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:51, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Refs added for every row of the table. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:42, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support NapHit (talk) 17:52, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Crisco 1492 (talk)

;Comments from Crisco 1492

"player who best exemplifies the fighting spirit and competitive desire of Fred Hutchinson." - Perhaps a bit of clarification: for playing through illness? That's what the recipients you single out did.
- I'd say "adversity", since a number of them played through injuries, which I wouldn't consider an illness. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:45, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"1965 in honor of Hutchinson, the former MLB pitcher and manager, who died of lung cancer in November 1964, at the age of 45." - that's cramming a lot of info. How about "was created in 1965 to honor Hutchinson, a former MLB pitcher and manager who had died of lung cancer the previous year"
- Agreed. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:45, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I've done a copyedit, be sure to check. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:43, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Looks good to me! – Muboshgu (talk) 17:45, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support on prose, looks fine. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:32, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 17:28, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"the fighting spirit and competitive desire " this is a little NPOV, I guess it's a quote, so put it in quotes and ref it.
- Done. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:44, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"KDKA-AM;" seems to be called "KDKA" in our own article.
- My bad, didn't notice that was a redirect. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:44, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"including Mickey Mantle, the inaugural winner" reads a little odd to me, of course the inaugural winner would be included. Maybe, "the inaugural winner being Mickey Mantle."?
- That was meant to mean that Mantle is a HOFer, not just a winner. Damn English language vagaries. I reworded it. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:51, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"To date..." we normally put a real date on that.
- Yeah. I removed it entirely since I don't think it's necessary. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:44, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"1987–present" sorry, could you just check at WP:DASH if this should be spaced or not? I can't remember (because the range is a number to a word).
- Not explicitly stated (number to word), but I'm pretty sure it's right. #1 says "In ranges that might otherwise be expressed with to or through", and this is "1987 to present" – Muboshgu (talk) 18:44, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Don't like "Baseball awards #United States" at all. If you wish to link this, pipelink it more elegantly.
- Done – Muboshgu (talk) 18:44, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 18:42, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"The permanent display of the Hutch Award trophy" what do the recipients get to keep?
- I don't know. I haven't seen anything to say they get anything. I'll look again and report back. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:51, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I haven't found anything on this. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:02, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Scratch that. They get a trophy designed by Dale Chihuly. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:41, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Just my opinion, but I think the article would be improved by adding another image in between Hutchinson and Lester.

Has anyone won the award multiple times? If not, this should be mentioned in the article. AutomaticStrikeout 19:15, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I added an image of Butler, it did need a third image. There has been no multiple winner, and I'm not sure that it needs to be said, since sorting the table will reveal that. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:42, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from TBrandley (talk) 22:06, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

External links shouldn't use {{cite web}}
Categories should be sorted in alphebitcal order

TBr and ley 21:50, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Categories alphabetized. As to the use of {{cite web}} in the External link section, Wikipedia:EL#External_links_section doesn't forbid it, it merely tells editors who do it to use caution to be sure the description of the page is sufficient. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:02, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support. TBr and ley 22:07, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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