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Clark Gable filmography edit

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Nominator(s): ~ HAL333 19:02, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I was surprised to find that Gable's filmography wasn't a FL - seemed like something someone would have done in 2008. He's a pretty notable actor, so I decided to give it a swing myself. ~ HAL333 19:02, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Bloom6132 (talk) 16:36, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comments –
  • In light of the recent RFC on table captions (closed back in May) and how FLCs have to follow MOS:ACCESS, table captions should be included for each of the 3 tables. However, I think this quote by PresN applies to this list: "In the case that the table is the first thing in a section where the section header is essentially the same as what the caption would be, and therefore looks duplicative visually, you can make the caption screen reader-only with the {{sronly}} template, e.g. "|+ {{sronly|Example table caption}}" instead of "
  • Images utilized are licensed and tagged
  • However, they are lacking alt text
  • "His next role was alongside leading-ladies Ava Gardner and Deborah Kerr in The Hucksters (1947). Gable then appeared with Ava Gardner and … – since Ava Gardner is mentioned in back-to-back sentences, you might want to de-wikilink and refer to her by only her surname in the second sentence.
  • Read the prose in detail – everything else looks all good.

—Bloom6132 (talk) 10:08, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bloom6132  Done I appreciate the comments. ~ HAL333 11:32, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – all comments addressed. Looks to me like it meets all 6 FL criteria. Great work! —Bloom6132 (talk) 16:13, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I am participating in the WikiCup, and intend to claim points from the above review. —Bloom6132 (talk) 10:11, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:12, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
;Comments on the lead
  • "over 70 films and almost 20 short films" - short films are still films, so probably worth changing the first one to feature films
 Done
  • "After many uncredited and minor roles" - are his uncredited roles included in the table, or is it not known what they were? If included, they should be noted.
I couldn't find any reliable sources, so I just removed it from the lede. ~ HAL333 04:53, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Gable's first leading role was opposite Crawford in Dance, Fools, Dance (1931), the first of eight collaborations with Crawford" - to avoid using her name twice in such close proximity, maybe change the second clause to "the first of eight films in which they appeared together
 Done
  • "Gable appeared alongside the Three Stooges and Fred Astaire, his acting debut" - slightly confusing as to whose debut it was - assuming it was Astaire's, say "Astaire, who was making his acting debut"
 Done
  • "his costar" - isn't "co-star" normally written with a hyphen?
 Done
  • "The following year, he starred with leading-lady" - this didn't have a hyphen when used before
 Done
  • "During the War," - don't think war needs a capital
 Done
  • "Gables first film" - missing apostrophe
 Done
  • "His next role was alongside leading-ladies" - again, does this take a hyphen or not?
 Done
  • Think that's it on the lead, I will look at the rest later..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:08, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment on tables
  • Don't think the second L in "Leading lady" should be a capital
NA
  • Could wikilink lost film for those who don't know what it means
 Done
  • Refs on The Iron Horse row are not in the correct numerical order
 Done
  • Note against Too Hot to Handle is not a full sentence so doesn't need a full stop
 Done
 Done
  • Refs against Combat America aren't in numerical order
 Done
  • In the lead you said he appeared in almost 20 short films, but the Short films section only lists nine. Even if you add in the war films, that only totals 12, which isn't really "almost 20". Are there some missing, or is "almost 20" overstating it a bit?
 Done
Comments
  • Why is there a notes section in references.
  • Consider archiving refs. (this might be useful)
  • In references, don't add italic to Turner Classic Movies, Rotten Tomatoes, Stanford.edu, Oscars.
That's it from me. Good work! ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 09:09, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
CAPTAIN MEDUSA  Done I appreciate the comments. ~ HAL333 21:46, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 17:11, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comments

WikiCup review

  • Some overlinks in the lead, Harlow and Loy.
 Done
  • There should be a "the" in the Three Stooges pipe.
 Done
  • "iconic" moustache. I have no doubt that Clark's 'tach was indeed iconic, but as an encylopedia we really a source to say this rather than claim it in Wikipedia's voice...
 Done
  • The Call of the Wild no "The".
 Done
  • "Gable on the poster for Gone with the Wind (1939)" with Vivien Leigh.
 Done
  • In the tables, the row scope should be the key element of each row, and that, in my opinion, is the title of the work, not the year of its release.
  • On my screen, the refs are squashed into three columns by the Combat America poster, you could use {{clear}} after that table to prevent it from happening.
 Done
  • I don't think we need a location for Variety.
 Done
  • Refs with -- need to be updated to have – instead.
 Done

That's it for me. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 10:27, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man I appreciate the comments, and I have addressed all but the sixth one. I prefer making the year the scope-row. It's not a huge dealbreaker if I have to change it, but is it okay if I don't? ~ HAL333 15:51, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'd prefer us to follow MOS:ACCESS which recommends the use of this which gives a clear example of using the row scope on the important element of the table, and in this case, it's the name of the film. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 17:01, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The Rambling Man  Done I'll start doing that from now on. Thanks! ~ HAL333 19:28, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Gable and Crawford in Strange Cargo (1940) In the other captions the first names of the actresses are included, it would look consistent and nice to include it here as well.
  • Also, Grace Kelly and Crawford are not wikilinked in the picture captions, either link them all or none (they all appear in the lead).
  • What's the reasoning behind the notes in the "Notes" column? Is there a systematic approach to what information should be included there?
  • That's literally all I could think of. Nice work! Yakikaki (talk) 09:13, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yakikaki  Done For the notes, I include any kind of credit (producer, music track, director, etc) and anything else notable. ~ HAL333 19:49, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply and Support from me, nicely done! Yakikaki (talk) 09:25, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Source review – As with the other filmography FLC I just reviewed references for, the formatting and reliability of the sources appear up to snuff. The link-checker shows one issue: the original version of ref 22 is no longer working, and you'll need to switch the first link over to the archived one by changing the urlstatus parameter to dead. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:24, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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