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The article was not promoted by GrahamColm 10:01, 5 May 2013 (UTC) [1].[reply]

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Nominator(s): Runfellow (talk) 18:26, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured article because I believe the article meets WP:FACR. Specifically, the prose has been copyedited carefully, it is as comprehensive as any article could get about the subject, the research is extensive and verifiable, there are no edit conflicts, and it meets the style guidlines presented in WP:MOS. As a side note regarding media, the video included in the article was originally released on Youtube with an appropriate Creative Commons license. The other images are all fairly straightforward. I appreciate your consideration and comments. Runfellow (talk) 18:26, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

At a quick look-see, this seems to be well-written. Nice work! Some comments:

  • Are the flags in the infobox anything more than decorative?
  • Bit odd to say that a city occupies a lake; but I guess that's OK, is it? Ah, then I see that the lake is artificial ... yes?
  • "the early part of the 20th century"—could that be just "the early 20th century"?
  • "a nonpartisan city council"—first I've ever heard of nonpartisan politics, whether local or international. But ... OK, if you're sure.
  • "Progress", then "Growth" ... short titles are good, but this sounds a little commercial. Could they both be a tiny longer in a way that anchors them more, chronologically?
  • Pic of the medical center—is it from outer space? Blurry, weird. I'd go for 240px so the sign doesn't look as though it's in Hindi (same for the library pic, which is fine; and the sunset, which is too dark and non-descript to be acceptable here, I believe), or get rid of the brown horror. I've tried it: see what you think and revert if you hate it. Skate-boarders vid—does this add encyclopedic value? Is it any different from what I'd video down at my local park? City hall pic at top: would make an impressive large pic if you took it out and above that infobox. Just a suggestion. That pic of the high school: can you possibly lighten it? I think it's not worth having at the moment. Tony (talk) 09:26, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Response: Thanks for the constructive criticism, Tony, all good points. Here are a few responses:
  • I don't think I'm seeing the flags in the infobox; maybe this is something set with my default theme? I don't have any city or state flags set to display in the box, I don't think. Perhaps I'm misreading your comment.
  • I changed the sentence to read that it "occupies" the land and "includes" part of the lake.
  • I could go either way on "early part of" or just "early".
  • By "nonpartisan", I mean they are not elected by party (no "R" or "D" next to the name, no official party affiliations or primaries for candidates). A source in the government section points out that municipal elections in Texas are nonpartisan.
  • I'll see if I can't come up with a way to add something to the headings. The "progress" label was sort of meant to tie into the "progressive" era, so I could maybe change that to something more directly tied to that label.
  • The photo of the theater is admittedly not great, but I think it's better than my own photo, which occupied that space for a time. I went ahead and removed the sunset pic; I have added and removed that a couple of times and I think have finally reached the conclusion that it simply doesn't merit inclusion. I think the skate park vid would be different from what you'd see at your local park simply because it includes a skate park. Although public skate parks are more common than they used to be, I don't think they're common enough to not be at least somewhat unique. I also removed the photo of the high school. I took that and included it a few weeks ago and was pretty much in denial, but yeah, you're right. It's not very good, and doesn't really add anything.
  • The city hall pic may be the only good photograph I've ever taken (I believe I'm a decent writer/editor, but I am definitely the worst photographer I know). I'm not sure what you mean by taking it "out and and above the infobox". Can you clarify?
Runfellow (talk) 18:14, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Any data on religions in this city?--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:25, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also, what are the seasons one can experience in the city? --Dwaipayan (talk) 05:30, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Economy: What kind of occupation the citizens have (of course, if data is available)? At least, which sector (secondary, tertiary etc). Any manufacturing industries? Or, is this a largely typical suburban town from where people commute to the larger cities?
  • "...ranked as one of the top "Powerhouses of the New Economy" by Black Enterprise magazine in 2000" An auto dealership ranked as a powerhouse of new economy? What does it mean anyway? "New economy"? Is this dealership a huge one, employing thousands of people?
  • Education: Are there anything above high school, such as community college, college, university ?
  • Based on my above observations/question, I feel currently the article may not be comprehensive. So, my vote is neutral (of course, subject to change, since the issues raised may be addressed soon :))--Dwaipayan (talk) 14:20, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Data on crime, employment/unemployment?--Dwaipayan (talk) 21:11, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose For 1b (comprehensive), as illustrated in the issues raised by me above. After the great initial response from the nominator, not much has been done in the article, or, no more updates here. Sorry, --Dwaipayan (talk) 00:49, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Response:
  • Regarding religion, unless there's some kind of estimates from the American Community Survey, I highly doubt there's any verifiable source to use for religious data. There's no one religion, church, or denomination that dominates the area or anything like that, so it would be hard to get good info on that.
  • As the old saying goes, "If you don't like the weather in Texas, wait a few minutes." Some of what people refer to as different seasons will be subjective, but I tried to be as scientific and verifiable as possible in my description of the climate.
  • Regarding occupation, again, I can look in the ACS data to see what kinds of breakdowns are available. I can pretty much promise that there are no predominant industries, however, as the city is very much a suburban community with a diverse economic base.
  • Regarding any higher education institutions, nope, none in the city, though there is a community college up I-35 a few miles and there is the University of North Texas in Denton a few miles north of that. Even though those aren't in the city, should they still be included since it factors into the city's education?
Runfellow (talk) 18:14, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ceranthor's Comments
Lead
  • Originally called Holford's Prairie, the origins of Lewisville date back to the early 1840s.[5] - origins used twice, a little redundant
History
  • Lewisville celebrated the paving of the U.S. Route 77 between Denton and Dallas in 1931 with a "Coming Out of the Mud" ceremony. - Probably should give a brief description of this ceremony itself, rather than explaining its title. Unless of course there was no formal ceremony.
Parks and Recreation
  • The nine-hole, 1,724-yard (1,576 m) Lake Park Executive course opened in 1994.[80] - A non-breaking space would prevent the clutter of this sentence, which has figures running from one line to the next. That's a pain for any reader.
Demographics
  • The average household size was 2.53 persons and the average family size was 3.21 persons. T - Again, an nbsp would be nice here.
Transportation
  • In 1998, the Texas Department of Transportation carried out a Major Investment Study to examine the possibility of expanding the section of Interstate 35E between Interstate 635 and U.S. Route 380,[97] the primary focus being an 8-mile (13 km) stretch - nbsp
Education
  • The survey estimated that 24,879 Lewisville residents over the age of three were enrolled in schools.[113] - nbsp again.
References
  • Bates, Edward (1918). History and Reminiscences of Denton County. Denton, Texas: McNitzky Printing Company. LCCN 19004337. OCLC 2133818. - Other book sources use an accessdate, so this one should, too.
  • Bates, Edward (1918). History and Reminiscences of Denton County. Denton, Texas: McNitzky Printing Company. LCCN 19004337. OCLC 2133818. - Same thing.
  • Odom, E. Dale (1996). An Illustrated History of Denton County, Texas: From Peters Colony to Metroplex (First ed.). Denton, Texas. ISBN 0-9651324-0-4. OCLC 35182680. - Again, needs an accessdate for consistency.
  • United States Department of Agriculture (2012). USDA Plant Hardiness Zone Map (Interactive Map). Cartography by Oregon State University. East Texas inset. - Other map sources use an accessdate, so this one should have one, too.
  • Mendez, Carlos (2004-12-29). "Ex-Guard Pursuing a Different Course After Football". The Fort Worth Star Telegram. p. 6D. 11275041. "The former Cowboys guard is owner of Timbercreek Golf Center in Lewisville" - Accessdate?
  • Pry, Lyn (2006-12-17). "Transit Authority Gives Free Rides". The Dallas Morning News. 1161713654B03420. "DCTA launched the service on Nov. 15. It runs both directions in a figure-eight path through the city." - Accessdate?
  • Rodriguez, Bobby (2011-12-12). "MCL Grand Theater Named Best Events Venue in Denton County". News Connection (Flower Mound, Texas: Shane Allen). - Accessdate?
  • Hughes, Lenny; Wood, Adam; Witte, Mark (2011). The 2011 Lewisville Trails Master Plan (Report). Richardson, Texas: Halff. - Accessdate?
  • No dabs, so those are all fine. Sources check out it seems.

Seems like a lot of work, but consistency of refs is not difficult to fix. Good work. ceranthor 16:26, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak Oppose - Until my comments are resolved. ceranthor 19:09, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - The prose looks pretty good to me. I will come back with some suggestions before the end of the weekend. ceranthor 19:39, 6 April 2013 (UTC) (see above comment)[reply]
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