Talk:Lewisville, Texas

How the references work

Although I have tried to use a simple and consistent reference system on this page, it's somewhat different than the system many articles use. Therefore, it may be confusing for those not familiar with it. This page uses the shortened footnote template instead of full references inline with the text. I did this for a few reasons, but mainly because it makes it easier to reference different pages of the same text. If you have a source you'd like to add, follow these steps:

1. First, use Template:Sfn immediately after your statement. Use the first author's last name and year. Whenever possible, include the page number. It will look like this: {{sfn|Bates|1918|p=31}}
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* {{cite book |title=History and Reminiscences of Denton County |last=Bates |first=Edward |year=1918 |publisher=McNitzky Printing Company |location=[[Denton, Texas]] |url=http://books.google.com/books?id=U8kBAAAAMAAJ |oclc=2133818 |ol=23400877M |lccn=19004337 |ref=harv}}

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Runfellow (talk) 18:15, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

photo

what would be a good photo? I live in the dallas area and I might be able to snap a picture.W3stfa11 01:53, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

The new city hall. Ianwashere

I added a couple pictures, one of City Hall. -U 02:10, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

New Census Info

The 2010 Census Demographic Profiles are out, and I can get to them, but it won't let me create any sort of permanent link. Once I can, I'll update a LOT of the info here with newer stuff.AndLibertyForAll (talk) 15:48, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Added new census info. Runfellow (talk) 05:32, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Employers

The employment figures for Vista Ridge Mall don't look right. The mall itself probably employees a few dozen office and maintenance workers. Everyone else works at individual stores. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.252.200.202 (talk) 05:16, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

That information comes from the most recent (2011) Comprehensive Annual Financial Report from the city manager. True, the mall itself probably doesn't hire that many people, but that's how it's listed, and thus until I can find a reliable source that says otherwise I think we're stuck with that figure.Runfellow (talk) 21:19, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Lewisville, Texas/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Jezhotwells (talk · contribs) 04:24, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

I shall be reviewing this article against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.

Disambiguations: none found.

Linkrot: none found. Jezhotwells (talk) 04:30, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Full review to be posted within 48 hours. Jezhotwells (talk) 04:30, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Checking against GA criteria

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

   "The 2010 United States Census stated its population as 95,290, making it one of the fastest growing city populations in the United States." If you are going to say this you need to state what the growth was, percent or numbers. I see that this claim is not mentioned in the Demographics section.

   "It sometimes falls into disrepair, but local residents and businesses gathered to restore it in 2011." "sometimes"? How often, once a week?

   "Though Abraham Lincoln was not on the ballot in the area for the 1860 Presidential election, residents of Lewisville (listed as "Hollforts" on election results) still gave John C. Breckinridge only a 44–31 majority over a fusion option." This is pretty much meaningless to me. Can you rewrite in plain English?

   "Republicans in the Fourteenth Texas Legislature passed a law on April 30, 1874, prohibiting alcohol within two miles of the town. This was extremely unpopular with residents, and the city retained as many as 17 saloons at one point.[" Confusing. Did the residents just ignore the law?

   Otherwise prose not bad.

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   " In September 1969, 13 days after Woodstock, the city hosted the Texas International Pop Festival, which drew over 250,000 spectators and featured performances by Janis Joplin, B.B. King and Led Zeppelin." The reference says circa 150,000

   "and Jimmy Johnson, caddie to professional golfers Nick Price, Michelle Wie, Steve Stricker, and Charles Howell III." The reference does not state that he lives there, just that he keeps boats on the lake.

   http://tx.milesplit.com (ref #53) is a user submitted site not RS

   ref #58 http://cowboyszone.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-16347.html is a forum not a RS.

   :ref #65 http://www.lewisvilleleader.com/articles/2011/01/18/lewisville_leader/news/72.txt makes no mention on the piano fundraiser.

   What makes ref#55 http://skatetherat.com/rat/2011/03/29/killer-crowds-great-weather-and-major-shredding-at-2011-scion-rat-skateboard-tour-kick-off-event/} a reliable source

   As every spotcheck of online sources has raised problems, you will have to go through every reference and check whether it supports the stated facts and and whether or not it is a reliable source. For debatable sources, use the WP:RSN. A large number of sources are off-line. As I do not have access to them, I would like you to quote here the relevant sentences for these references: #1, 5, 9, 16, 29, 39, 57, 72/73, .

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

   Demographics: usually this has a breakdown of religious affiliations.

   Media: are there no radio or TV stations?

   There is a usually a section about educational institutions in city articles.

   Overall there seems to be reasonable coverage, but it would be good to work on those noted above. Jezhotwells (talk) 14:11, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

   NPOV

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

   The article appears to be stable, no evidence of edit wars.

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   Images tagged, licensed and captioned OK

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   Some issues above to be addressed. On hold for seven days. Jezhotwells (talk) 08:10, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

   OK, improvemnets have been made and I judge that this article now meets the GA criteria. Congratulations! Sorry about the delay, some pressing real-life business intervened. Jezhotwells (talk) 14:11, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Fixes made

I would add this to the above review but I'm really tired and the formatting stuff just isn't working with me today.

• Added 2000 Census number in lede and added claim in Demographics section (taken from history section.)
• Changed wording of "sometimes falls into disrepair". I have a general idea as to how often this happens, but it would be an unverifiable guess.
• Dunno how to rewrite 1860 election sentence to be both verifiable and NPOV (I have plenty of opinion on the matter, but obviously don't want to insert that). Generally speaking, the south hated Lincoln and did not put him on the ballot for the 1860 election. However, people in this area were not as enthusiastic about the idea of secession as other places in Texas or the south. Even though Lincoln wasn't listed on their ballots, a number of people in Lewisville (which was then still "Halford's Prairie") voted for the "fusion" ticket, a kind of pro-union (but still anti-Lincoln) ticket that essentially meant "none of the above", or a protest vote. The short version of all that is "these folks were not nearly as gung-ho about secession as much of the south in 1860", but I can't really assume to know the motivations for such an act, and thus the wording of the sentence.
• Yes, residents ignored the law. I have clarified the sentence.
• Changed the attendance numbers re:Texas International Pop Festival. The numbers vary from source to source, but 150,000 seems fine.
• Removed Jimmy Johnson.
• Replaced sources:
  • Txrunning.com with Lewisville Leader article
  • Removed convenience URL for Ref #58. The original article was not available online, so the link was meant for convenience. I removed the URL and added a quote from the article as well as additional info. I've got a link to News Bank if you have a subscription to that.
  • Added ref re:piano fundraiser, guess that one slipped by me.
  • Replaced Scion RAT with similar release in Skateboarder Magazine
  • Give me a couple of days for quotes from print releases.
• Re: Religious affiliation: ery few (if any) sources are available for Lewisville specifically, and there do not seem to be any specific trends regarding religious affiliations. I'd be willing to be pointed in the right direction if any good data exist, however.
• Re: Radio and TV: The city is within the DFW media market, and there are no Lewisville-based or -focused radio or TV stations.
• I'll think about adding an education section, but these sections tend to be very similar between cities, as in "it is served by XISD, which includes X elementary schools, X middle schools, and X high schools." There are no higher education institutions in the city. But if it's needed, I can put something in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Runfellow (talk • contribs) 00:40, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Reference quotes requested

As requested by Jezhotwells, here are quotes from the references mentioned (numbers are as of the July 5 revision of the article)

Ref #1 (Hervey p. 26)

When Lewisville was incorporated the northern boundary was established along the meandering Prairie Creek. The MK&T Railroad easement was the eastern boundary. The southern boundary was Purnell Street. The western boundary was a survey line extending from Prairie Creek south along a parallel line with Edmonds Lane.

Source page: books.google.com/books?id=Kv8cdMN99r0C&pg=PA26#v=onepage&q&f=false

Ref #5 (Capace p. 437)

Lewisville sits in the Eastern Cross Timbers region of the State, between the Blackland Belt and the Grand Prarie. [...] Lewisville's history dates to the early 1840s [...] The head of the development company was W.S. Peters, publisher of the song "Oh Suzannah"[sic] [...] The actual site of Lewisville was originally called Holford's Prairie Settlement after John and James Holford

Source page: books.google.com/books?id=RePkhLzUjlEC&pg=PA437#v=onepage&q&f=false

Ref #9 (Bates p. 31)

To the south on Long Prairie the Presbyterians established a church and camp ground; they called it Flower Mound.

Source page: texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth61103/m1/49/

Ref #16 (Bridges p. 147)

The railroad meeting apparently was well attended [...] It was announced that the railroad would reach the Denton County line by July 1. Lewisville had raised $15,000 with another $5,000 promised.

Ref #29 (Odom, p. 69)

In 1925 Denton County had 165 miles of all-weather roads serving much of the county. But it was not until October 1931 that the "Lewisville Gap" was closed and Denton was provided with a direct all-weather route to Dallas.

Ref #39 (Cole-Jett p. 125)

In 1987, the Vista Ridge Mall opened southwest of downtown Lewisville, and it is still a major retail hub today, featuring stores like [...]. The mall anchors a large real estate expansion that includes strip malls, housing, recreational areas, business parks, and an amphitheater.

Source page: books.google.com/books?id=cCXMtnq7D3kC&pg=PA125#v=onepage&q&f=false

Ref #57 (Dodson p. 8)

I told Harvie how after I took him with me on a Hogan research trip to Fort Worth and left him for the week out at Hank Haney's golf ranch in Lewisville, Jack came away with a fine golf swing.

Source page: books.google.com/books?id=Fl9G7U4nGwQC&pg=PT21#v=onepage&q&f=false

Ref #72 (Pareti 40–46)

Page 43

After purchasing and merging The Enterprise with The Leader, Clements gave the newspaper a major facelift.

Page 46

With the onslaught of the civil rights movement in the early 1960s in which African-Americans pushed for equal ights and school desegregation, "southern newspaper and local television stories downplayed the news or refused to cover it at all. The South's editorial voices had been virtually silent, with occasional exceptions." [quoted from Folkerts and Teeter, Voices of a Nation]

Clements was one of the exceptions.

He addressed the issue of integration. Although Lewisville had a small African-American population at the time, Clements, to the chagrin of some readers and the Ku Klux Klan, openly but cautiously supported desegregation. He received threats for his position.

Ref #73 (Pareti p. 50)

With his failing health and Lewisville growing larger, Clements on March 1, 1971 sold his newspaper to Harte-Hanks Community Newspapers for $125,000.

Runfellow (talk) 19:02, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

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