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The article was archived by Laser brain via FACBot (talk) 9 September 2020 [1].

Everett, Washington edit

Nominator(s): Sounder Bruce 04:23, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

One of my early pandemic projects that grew into a long article about a blue-collar city with a long history of labor movements and strife. Everett is home to the world's largest building by volume, a base for aircraft carriers, and some of the worst traffic in the United States, among other honors. This article was rewritten a few months ago from the ground up with the intention of being an FA, complete with new offline sources that I have acquired to keep permanently. Sounder Bruce 04:23, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drive by comments by Nick-D edit

I don't think I'll post a full review here, but a few things jump out at me from a skim:

Watch out for recentism - some examples:
- "An adjacent four-story apartment building was destroyed in a fire while under construction in July 2020." - why note unimportant recent fires?
- "In response to a projected revenue shortfall of $14 million caused by the shelter-in-place order, which later spread statewide, the city government laid off 160 employees in May 2020 and plans to cut services.[131] The city's original 2020 budget had already been constrained due to a projected deficit caused by a spending gap identified in 2017." - surely similar (though less substantial) cutbacks would have occurred in the 2008 recession and previous recessions, but they don't seem to be mentioned?
"Everett is described as a "largely blue-collar city", but is home to a regional arts scene that includes galleries, community theaters, music, and artwork" - why the "but"? Do blue collar people (including skilled aerospace workers) not like live music and other forms of the arts?
The photo of Naval Station Everett is pretty dull - surely there's a better option
Are very similar sections needed on the results of both the 2000 and 2010 census (and why not cover earlier censuses?). Much of this material might be better presented as graphs or tables.
More broadly, the article has a bit of a 'boosterism'-type feel to it, with lots of unnecessary detail on various recent urban and cultural improvement initiatives (the 'Events and tourism' section in particular details a large range of very standard-sounding current events). I'd suggest reviewing this material across the article critically, and trimming it back. Nick-D (talk) 23:07, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Image review—pass edit

File:Monte Cristo Hotel, Everett, Washington (4861196624).jpg I don't think "no known copyright restrictions" is sufficient, see Commons:Commons:No known restrictions. To know if it is in the public domain, we would need to know when it was published and whether copyright notice was attached.
- Replaced with a modern image of the same hotel.
File:Boeing 747 rollout (3).jpg — Swedish origin of this photograph is doubtful; source link dead; Russavia is now SanFran banned
- It appears that this same image is credited to AFP or Getty Images depending on the source (e.g. NPR). I have replaced it with another image of the Boeing 747.
Other images appear to be appropriately licensed
Image placement is in accordance with MOS (t · c) buidhe 10:32, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comments edit

The tables need some work to meet the requirements of MOS:ACCESS; see MOS:DTT for a guide of how to add a table header, and row and column scopes.
- All fixed, from what I've read of DTT. Wish there was an easy tool to check for compliance, though.
The article links to a few pages which redirect back to this one: History of Everett, Washington, Ebey Island, Schack Art Center and The Everett Channel.
- I plan to write articles for all these redirects when I have time in the future, forking content from this article if necessary (but not likely for most cases).
What sources the content in the "Sports" table? From what I can see, a lot of it is unreferenced. Harrias ^talk 15:00, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Added citations for years and venue columns. Thanks for the comments. Sounder Bruce 05:41, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drive by comments

Some thoughts on the demographics section. The crime table is quite interesting, but it really should have a comparison between state and/or national statistics. 908 car thefts per 100k is meaningless without context, but if it's significantly different than either state or national average than it has context. Is it possible to add a column (or two) here? I'm also not sure the 2000 census paragraph should even be in this article. It's nearly 20 years out of date. Statements like "For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 102.8 males" 20 years ago is really trivial. I hope to have time to give a more thorough review later! Mattximus (talk) 17:06, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The crime statistics template is hardcoded and I don't believe there's an option to add extra columns, though I would be interested to add Washington and U.S. averages. The 2000 census section is present in most city articles and will likely be dropped in favor of using fresh 2020 data when it's available next year. I think that having the most recent two censuses is helpful for readers who want to quickly compare pieces of information. Sounder Bruce 05:41, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinator comment - This has been open for well over a month without any declaration of support for promotion, and doesn't seem to be heading in the right direction at present. Therefore, I will be archiving it shortly and it may be re-nominated after the customary two-week waiting period. --Laser brain (talk) 11:53, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been archived, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. --Laser brain (talk) 11:53, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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