Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Elon Musk/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was archived by Buidhe via FACBot (talk) 23 August 2022 [1].

Elon Musk edit

Nominator(s): ~ HAL333 02:20, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Elon Musk is the 14th most visited article on Wikipedia. This FAC is about about a year and a half in the making, and the article has been a GA since last June. Hopefully this nomination will have its supporters, but I know it already has at least one "oppose". Cheers! ~ HAL333 02:20, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Let us do it! A lot of work has gone into the article. QRep2020 (talk) 02:57, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We don't count a BLP's assessment of their own biography, due to the obvious conflict of interest. (t · c) buidhe 05:48, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I was joking..... ~ HAL333 17:56, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments: I respect the amount of effort HAL333 and QRep have put to this article, but I do think that it is a bit of a hasted nomination. Some sections are a bit too short, such as in the "Neuralink" and "The Boring Company" sections. There's also too much short paragraphs that are 1-2 sentences long and a bit of a liberal use of quotations (especially at "Wealth" section). Overall, I think this article is a solid GA, but I think that a bit more work is needed to be done for the article to be of FA-quality. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 04:22, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have expanded the Neuralink and TBM sections. Also, paragraph length is irrelevant unless it impacts comprehensiveness, which I believe it does not. ~ HAL333 18:39, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

After skimming through the "Leadership" and "SpaceX" sections, plus with my concerns above, I don't feel comfortable for the article to get promoted. The SpaceX section focuses way too much at Starlink while not much is talked about Starship, though both have similar level of ambitiousness, while the "Wealth" section is a mess. Prose is not excellent and certainly not featured-quality yet. Sorry to say this, but I suggest a withdrawal to allow more time to polish the article. The article should only be nominated again once everything is absolutely satisfactory. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 14:30, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Steelkamp edit

Will look at this now. Steelkamp (talk) 10:07, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There are many duplicate links.

Is there a bot I could use to find these? ~ HAL333 17:52, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@HAL333: - click "highlight duplicate links" in the left-hand side bar..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:20, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think you have to install User:Evad37/duplinks-alt.js for that. Steelkamp (talk) 07:24, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Steelkamp: oh OK. I don't recall doing that, so I just assumed it was a feature everyone had. I must have installed it when I was half asleep LOL -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:26, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There are a few instances where there are more than three footnotes in a row.
many of whom are in states in which he has a vested interest. What does this mean?

He has vested interests (i.e. Tesla and SpaceX assets) in those states/countries. ~ HAL333 17:52, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Musk has also been described as having a "charm offensive" to woo China and its markets for Tesla. How does this go under politics?
What is a registered independent? Seems oxymoronic to me, but maybe this is a thing in American politics.

Yeah, in some American states you can register as an independent. I'm one myself. ~ HAL333 17:52, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In 2022, Musk said that he could "no longer support" the Democrats, ... Do we know the reason he can no longer support the Democrats?

Added. ~ HAL333 17:52, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Musk criticized then-president Donald Trump for his stance on climate change and after joining Trump's two business advisory councils,[304][305][306] Musk resigned from both in 2017 in protest against Trump's decision to withdraw the United States from the Paris Agreement. Prose could be improved.
and that COVID-19 were inflated. This sentence doesn't really make sense.

Fixed. QRep2020 (talk) 00:20, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

refused to close the Tesla Fremont factory in March 2020, defying the local shelter-in-place order. In May 2020, he reopened the Tesla factory, defying the local stay-at-home order, and warned workers that they would be unpaid and their unemployment benefits might be jeopardized if they did not report to work. First sentence says the factory did not close, then the next sentence implies that the factory did close at some point. Also, did Musk or Tesla suffer any legal issues as a result of this.

Fixed. And there were no legal issues.

Musk eventually bought and donated medical devices that hospitals noted were BiPAP and CPAP machines. Seems like weasle words.
In 2012, he announced a divorce from Riley. In 2013, Musk and Riley remarried. In December 2014, he filed for a second divorce from Riley; however, the action was withdrawn. WP:PROSELINE.
Musk has made multiple cameos and appearances in films... Change this to Musk has made cameos and appearances in films... Or is this saying he made multiple cameos and appearances in all the following films listed?
Link Yale University.
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All other comments addressed. ~ HAL333 17:52, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Steelkamp have you read the WP:FAC instructions? Why are you using templates like tq? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:08, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I was unaware of that. I've removed those templates. Steelkamp (talk) 02:32, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think I can do a full source review (466 sources is too many), but Backchannel pre-Wired and Page Six don't seem like high quality reliable sources to me --Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 14:44, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Guerillero Page Six has been removed, but I'm confused about Wired. Which ones need to be removed? ~ HAL333 01:09, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinator comment edit

Four weeks in and no sign of a consensus to promote forming. Unless this changes in the next day or two I am afraid that the nomination is liable to be archived. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:34, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, let's archive it. ~ HAL333 01:15, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been archived, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. (t · c) buidhe 03:05, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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