Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Coalhouse Fort/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 12:38, 21 June 2017 [1].


Coalhouse Fort edit

Nominator(s): Prioryman (talk) 21:31, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Coalhouse Fort is one of the best preserved Victorian forts in the UK and is a place I've come to know well, both through the literature and on the ground. I wrote this article to provide a comprehensive overview, as part of a personal project to document the Thames forts, and also provided almost all of the images included in it. Hopefully it does the place justice. It became a Good Article nearly two years ago, so with a bit of luck it should also be suitable for consideration as a Featured Article. Prioryman (talk) 21:31, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support and comments from Jim edit

Well-written and comprehensive. I fixed a couple of obvious typos, please check. A few suggestions Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:40, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • it would be helpful if the Hoo Peninsula were added to the map. It's also the only overlinked article in the text
  • Rifled Muzzle Loader (RML) and Rifled Breech Loader are lower case in their own articles, which I suggest is correct. Depression Range Finder I think is also mis-capitalised.
  • en barbette — explain, or link to barbette

Support with minor comments edit

(NB: I reviewed at GA if memory serves)

  • I'd expand "pdr."
  • I've done this for the first instance, but "pdr" is the standard abbreviation so I've used this for the subsequent instances. Prioryman (talk) 17:42, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Depression Range Finders" - is the capitalisation correct here under the MOS? Hchc2009 (talk) 18:12, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Images are appropriately licensed. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:59, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Source review from Ealdgyth (talk · contribs) edit

  • I randomly googled three sentences and nothing showed up except mirrors. Earwig's tool shows no copyright violations - the big red "problem" is a facebook page and looks like someone copied the wikipedia article into the comments.
  • Normally the last source (the leaflet) would be a problem but considering it's just sourcing a description of the path, it's okay, but I'm not sure the information its sourcing is really needed for the article.
Otherwise everything looks good. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:10, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support Comments by Finetooth edit

Very interesting, nicely written and illustrated. I have a few comments and questions, nothing big.
General
  • Could you add something about the origin of the name? Why "Coalhouse"?
  • The images need alt text.
Lede
  • ¶3 "...and use it for a variety of heritage and educational purposes. It can be visited by the public on regular open days and houses a number of reconstructions, small military museums and open-air displays of military equipment. Funding for its restoration has come from a number of sources..." – Delete "a variety of", "a number of", and a second "a number of" in this sequence? Too vague to be meaningful.
Coalhouse Battery
  • ¶1 "to prevent enemies reaching that far down the Thames..." – Reaching that far "up" the river rather than "down"?
First Coalhouse Fort
  • ¶1 "In the case of the Coalhouse battery, it was substantially extended..." – Perhaps "expanded" rather than "extended"?
  • ¶1 "Progress was slow due to the marshy ground again causing problems with subsidence and cracking the foundations, as well as the contractor proving unsatisfactory." – A bit awkward. Better might be "Subsidence and foundation cracking related to the marshy ground slowed the work as did problems with the project contractor." Or something like that.
  • ¶1 "The fort was surrounded by a wide water-filled ditch, with a bridge on the west (landward) side providing the only access route." – Flip to active voice? Suggestion: "A wide water-filled ditch surrounded the fort; a bridge on the west (landward) side provided the only access route."
Second Coalhouse Fort
  • ¶1 "including the victualling yards..." – Link "victualling yards"?
  • ¶3 "Its final phases of construction were supervised by Colonel Charles George Gordon, who was later to die in the Siege of Khartoum." – Flip to active voice? Suggestion: "Colonel Charles George Gordon, who was later to die in the Siege of Khartoum, supervised the final phases of construction."
19th century
  • ¶2 "The guns were controlled from a Battery Commander's Post situated on the roof..." – Delete "situated"?
1920s to 1940s
  • ¶3 "were installed at the fort's gorge..." – Please briefly explain in parentheses what "fort's gorge" refers to, or link to an explanation.
External facilities
  • ¶2 "A corresponding post was located on the Kent shore. A small concrete structure located..." – You could safely delete "located" and "located" without changing the meaning.
Current status
  • ¶ "It was purchased in 1962 by Thurrock Urban District Council (now Thurrock Council), who remain its owners to this day." – Flip to active voice? Suggestion: "Thurrock Urban District Council (now Thurrock Council), the current owners, bought it in 1962."
  • @Finetooth:, thanks very much for your review. I've made all the changes you suggested. Prioryman (talk) 08:29, 11 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you. Looks good to me. Switching to support, as noted above. Finetooth (talk) 15:07, 11 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support. I made a few small edits but have no further suggestions. It is very comprehensive and well written. Moisejp (talk) 15:31, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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