Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/British Cypriots/archive1
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The article was not promoted by SandyGeorgia 22:03, 2 May 2009 [1].
- Nominator(s): Cordless Larry (talk) 17:27, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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I am nominating this for featured article because I feel that it meets the criteria for FA status having recently achieved GA status and remaining stable since. I believe that it is well written and thoroughtly referenced. Cordless Larry (talk) 17:27, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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- Ref formatting checks out fine with WP:REFTOOLS
Fix the 2disambiguation links- There are 0 dead external links.--Truco 18:22, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Have done. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:18, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose on criterion 3 - File:Stelios launches easyOffice.jpg - This image needs OTRS approval. The release on the website is not under a specific license nor explicitly into the public domain. See Wikipedia:Example requests for permission for help on this matter. Once this image has been approved through OTRS, I will strike this oppose. Awadewit (talk) 03:43, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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You've mixed using the Template:Citation with the templates that start with Cite such as Template:Cite journal or Template:Cite news. They shouldn't be mixed per WP:CITE#Citation templatesCurrent ref 24 (About Leon Osman...) is lacking a publisher.
- Otherwise, sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:44, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Can you provide an example of where Template:Citation is used in the article? I can't find it.
- I will look for an alternative source for the Leon Osman point as the source used doesn't state a publisher. Cordless Larry (talk) 12:59, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- You don't need a new source, just state it's his personal website on the reference. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:02, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- As for the citation template, it shows up as a template in use when you edit the page, but I can't find it either. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:03, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't think that it is his personal site though. It states at the bottom of the page that "DISCLAIMER: THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL SITE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL. This is a purely informational site about the individual and it is not affiliated with, or endorsed by, the individual. This information on this site was obtained from public sources, and may not be accurate, complete or up-to-date." Cordless Larry (talk) 13:09, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
question the caption for the image is notable British Cypriots, what is the definition of a notable British Cypriot? Fasach Nua (talk) 18:01, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Good quesion. I didn't add the images, User:Pankration2008 did. They are notable per WP:NOTABILITY, but why they were chosen above other potential candidates, I can't say. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:37, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- In that case, it fails FA criteria by containing original research, that fails WP:VERIFY Fasach Nua (talk) 08:58, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- OK, so do you have a suggested solution? Should I remove the image? Cordless Larry (talk) 09:20, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I would be more concerned with a whole section of WP:OR than the single image. As for images, perhaps a map of geographic distributions of B. Cypriots, Cycpriot Orthodox churches in Britain (if there are any), Cypriot food shops/restaurants in Britain, or other physical objects in Britain, rather than images of indiviuals may be more appropriate. Fasach Nua (talk) 09:50, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- By which I presume you are referring to the notable individuals section? Cordless Larry (talk) 09:52, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Since Fasach Nua has not replied, does anyone else have any views on whether the notable individuals section constitutes original research? Cordless Larry (talk) 07:28, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I would be more concerned with a whole section of WP:OR than the single image. As for images, perhaps a map of geographic distributions of B. Cypriots, Cycpriot Orthodox churches in Britain (if there are any), Cypriot food shops/restaurants in Britain, or other physical objects in Britain, rather than images of indiviuals may be more appropriate. Fasach Nua (talk) 09:50, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- OK, so do you have a suggested solution? Should I remove the image? Cordless Larry (talk) 09:20, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- In that case, it fails FA criteria by containing original research, that fails WP:VERIFY Fasach Nua (talk) 08:58, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose, at least for now. I have a some concerns about the coverage of this article, which seems rather thin to me.
- The article discusses only Greek and Turkish Cypriots, but there is also a significant population of Armenian Cypriots living in the UK. One of my oldest friends is an Armenian Cypriot, born in Nicosia and now living in Surrey.
- From the lead: "Migration from Cyprus to the UK has occurred in part due to the colonial links between the islands ...". Which islands are these? The UK isn't an island.
- From History: "Before the First World War, very few Cypriots migrated to the UK and the British Cypriot population at this time was around 150 ..." Before the First World War is an awful long time to call "this time". Was this an estimate of the population in 1913, for instance?
- What impact have the British Cypriots had on the areas they settled in? I know, for instance, that the Bank of Cyprus at one time had five or six branches in London catering almost exclusively to the Cypriot community, perhaps it still does. Any cultural impact? Any restrictions on British Cypriots, such as branches of the military or security forces they're not allowed to join?