Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Banksia aculeata/archive1
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The article was promoted by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 12:38, 22 December 2016 [1].
Banksia aculeata edit
This article got promoted to GA earlier this year (a fairly detailed review by Funkmonk, thanks!). Anyway, I think it is the equal of any of the other 28 banksia FAs. Should be simple fixes which I will fix pronto. and a short article. have at it. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:35, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
Support Comments from Jim
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I'll have more comments later,but just some number stuff to kick off. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:53, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
- Why fractions eg 1 1⁄4 rather than decimal 1.25?
- Numbers in a range should be quoted with the same accuracy, so, for example, I'd have 2.5–3.0 cm (1–1+1⁄4 in), not 2.5–3 cm (1–1+1⁄4 in)
- In late bud the end of the perianth has a characteristic...— comma somewhere?
- Why Stirling Ranges when it redirects to the singular?
- rendering it a valuable food source.— for what?
- ref 13 (!) is giving a 404 error
- have replaced with a 2013 paper I found Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:39, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
- Changed to support above. I was hoping that the food source bit might be more specific (insects? honeyeaters? both?) but it's not a big deal, good luck Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:46, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
- have replaced with a 2013 paper I found Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:39, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
Comments from Josh edit
- "It does not have a woody base, known as a lignotuber, that many other banksias have." This doesn't quite flow right, for me.
- "It is 3.0–4.3 cm (1 1⁄4–1 3⁄4 in) long and pink at the base grading into cream." It's not fully clear what the it refers to, here.
- "The obovate (egg-shaped) seed is 4–5 cm (1 5⁄8–2 in) long and fairly flattened, and is composed of the wedge-shaped seed body (containing the embryonic plant), measuring 1.0–1.2 cm (3⁄8–1⁄2 in) long and 1.5–1.8 cm (5⁄8–3⁄4 in) wide, and a papery wing." Perhaps this could be split; four ands!
- I personally hate "empty" external link sections like that. Is there a database record or something that could be linked to? Alternatively, we have Template:Sister-inline and similar.
Images:
- File:Banksia aculeata map.png A link to the original map image would be a valuable addition to the image page.
- agree, Hesperian made the map in 2009 and I can't find the blank one on commons... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:26, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
- Hi guys. See the image source= parameter: "It was created by Hesperian, using the IBRA 6.1 data...." That is, I created the base map myself, using a GIS and publicly available vector data. Hesperian 00:48, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- @Hesperian: My apologies! Josh Milburn (talk) 02:40, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- Hi guys. See the image source= parameter: "It was created by Hesperian, using the IBRA 6.1 data...." That is, I created the base map myself, using a GIS and publicly available vector data. Hesperian 00:48, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- agree, Hesperian made the map in 2009 and I can't find the blank one on commons... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:26, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
- The photos are great.
That's all that's jumping out at me. Short, but key questions are answered, and you do have sourced mentions of how the species is little-known, so I'm not too worried about that. Josh Milburn (talk) 23:06, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
Sources:
- It seems that you're missing locations on your Flora of Australia source, but I admit I'm not sure how that is handled when there are multiple publishers. Is this perhaps published by CSIRO on behalf of the ABRS? The way you cite The Banksia Book may be viable.
- Are you linking publishers? Providing states for city locations? There's a little inconsistency, it seems.
- There's an inconsistency between "George, Alex S." and "George, Alex".
- Also, George's name is sometimes linked, sometimes not. There doesn't seem to be a clear pattern; judging from the other names, first mention in the cites only? What's the pattern for linking journal names?
- I wouldn't both including the publishers of journals, but, if you do, do so consistently.
- If you're including PMIDs, do so consistently, but I'd call them redundant to DOIs.
- ISBN 10 or ISBN 13?
- the books from the 80s didn't have 13 digit isbns... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:43, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
- Of course! Josh Milburn (talk) 02:40, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- the books from the 80s didn't have 13 digit isbns... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:43, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
All sources appropriately scholarly; no spotchecks done. I can't speak to comprehensiveness. (Sorry- that was picky.) Josh Milburn (talk) 22:58, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
- I also note that there's some inconsistency between title case and sentence case article titles. Josh Milburn (talk) 02:40, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
Support. Josh Milburn (talk) 02:40, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
Placeholder / Singora edit
I'll review this next week. Singora (talk) 18:40, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
- Singora, I'm about ready to close this based on the existing commentary/checks but will hold open a little longer if you still want to review. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 03:36, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
Comments from Choess edit
- In "Description", is "embedded with" idiomatic? I'd say "in which up to ...follicles are embedded".
- In "Taxonomy", "this was only discovered only a century later": I'm not sure "discovered" is the right word I'd use for the recognition of a segregate species. In this case, I might say something like "this distinction was first made over a century later". Instead of "He based the species on...", I might say "As the type of the species, George chose..." The article on B. caleyi links Taxonomy of Banksia as the main article from its Taxonomy section; is this suitable?
- In "Ecology", the same article is linked twice: once at "canopy seed bank" and once via redirect from "aerial seed bank". The terminology should be made consistent and linked at first occurrence. I would say "dependent on" instead of "depend upon", although I'm not sure why.
- For "Cultivation", is this of interest as an anecdotal report?
Other than that, this looks pretty good; comparable to the B. caleyi article. The shortness is understandable given that the taxon doesn't have a long history. Choess (talk) 02:17, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
Support: I did not find any significant issues. Everything looks to be in good order and the article appears to satisfy the FA criteria. Praemonitus (talk) 16:28, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Ian Rose (talk) 12:38, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
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