Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/1941 Atlantic hurricane season/archive1

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The article was promoted by SandyGeorgia 21:22, 22 November 2009 [1].

1941 Atlantic hurricane season

Nominator(s): –Juliancolton | ^Talk 18:17, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Featured article candidates/1941 Atlantic hurricane season/archive1

Well, here's my first nomination in a while. To satisfy those who criticize tropical cyclone nominations, this is an article which encompasses an entire season of hurricanes. I believe that despite its relative brevity and short list of citations, it's well-written, accurate, and as ever, comprehensive. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 18:17, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Please add alt text to images; see WP:ALT. Eubulides (talk) 21:28, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can you figure out how to make {{Infobox Hurricane Small}} compatible with alt? –Juliancolton | ^Talk 21:32, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, I just now added support for that; please see the documentation. Eubulides (talk) 00:33, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - Cool, thanks! Should be done now. :) –Juliancolton | ^Talk 01:06, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - You're welcome. ~~Alt text was added for the weather maps, but not for the tracks of the storm (for example, it's missing for File:1941 Atlantic tropical storm 1 track.png).~~ Also, the alt text for the lead image File:1941 Atlantic hurricane season map.png is only "Seasonal summary map"; this doesn't convey to the visually impaired reader the essence of that map (please see WP:ALT#Maps for advice). Eubulides (talk) 07:10, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      - Hmm, odd. {{Infobox hurricane season}} doesn't support alt text near as I can tell... done with the tracks though. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 15:01, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        I added support for alt text to {{Infobox hurricane season}}, so you should be able to do the alt text for the lead image now. I'm afraid the alt text for the tracks doesn't convey the gist of those images to the visually impaired readers. For example, for File:1941 Atlantic tropical storm 1 track.png the alt text is currently "Map of the Gulf of Mexico depicting the track of a tropical storm", which could describe half of all the tracks on that page; much better would be "A Gulf of Mexico storm track starts about halfway between the Florida panhandle and Yucatan, heads west and a bit north, and makes landfall near the Texas–Louisiana border." Similarly for the other tracks. Eubulides (talk) 19:55, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How's that? –Juliancolton | ^Talk 04:25, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good. All that's left is the alt text for the lead image, which you can specify with the |Track alt= parameter of {{Infobox hurricane season}}. Eubulides (talk) 07:04, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support on 2c grounds. Decline 2c:
~~Date formats inconsistent Month D YYYY, Month YYYY, YYYY-MM-DD. Pick one. Stick to it~~
Fixed. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 23:33, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

~~Respect to Velmer Smith, but her work is not RS, as its SELF published, see the file location? ~/velmer~~ Accepted triviality argument.
Velmer Lenora Smith is listed as a DeRidder Historian, and given the uncontroversial nature of the information cited to that source, it isn't an issue. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 23:33, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

~~If an unpublished report, it shouldn't really get quotes or ital: ^ Jon Friesner (April 1993). "Hurricanes in Belize". Forest Department. Retrieved 2009-10-23.~~
I'm not entirely sure what you mean. That's part of a citation template, so there isn't much I can do. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 23:33, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This is an unpublished report. Published works are cited with Italics or "Quotation marks". Unpublished works, such as unpublished reports, don't take these. Fifelfoo (talk) 23:44, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Used Template:Cite report Fifelfoo (talk) 01:43, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

~~Which Forest Department? There are 200+ countries in the world. Fifelfoo (talk) 22:58, 5 November 2009 (UTC)~~[reply]
Clarified. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 23:33, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

PhD (actually an ScD) thesis miscited, please cite as a Thesis: ^ Edward Morgan Brooks (1945). "An Unusual Rainfall Distribution in a Hurricane" (PDF). Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Retrieved 2009-10-23.
Could you please explain this? I don't understand. Thanks for the review! –Juliancolton | ^Talk 23:33, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Theses aren't books. You're citing it as if a) Its published, b) Its a book. The citation needs to indicate that the work is a doctoral thesis, and not use published work citation formats, such as Italics or "Quotes"Fifelfoo (talk) 23:44, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure how to remedy that, actually. Since I'm not particularly well-versed with citation templates, could you help me fix that? –Juliancolton | ^Talk 23:59, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Created and used Template:Cite thesis Fifelfoo (talk) 01:43, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, looks great. Thank you for the help! –Juliancolton | ^Talk 02:14, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Dabs; please check the disambiguation links identified in the toolbox. Dabomb87 (talk) 05:09, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Got it. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 05:30, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support Jason Rees (talk) 18:44, 13 November 2009 (UTC) ~~Review by Jason Rees (talk · contribs)~~[reply]

It officially began on June 16, 1941, and lasted until November 1, 1941.

June 16 seems a wierd date to start a season on - Surely it was June 15?

Well the source says it opened officially on June 16, 1941. I think it was usually on a case-by-case basis back then. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 20:11, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The timeline having August November and Decemeber included seems wrong and redundant since those months didnt have any storms Also it might be worth shortening the names to just the numbers.

Meh, that's the only way I can get it to work. :P –Juliancolton | ^Talk 20:11, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ive sorted it - you only needed to change the dates around.Jason Rees (talk) 20:22, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Another major storm traversed the Caribbean, leaving 47 men dead at sea.

Which Storm?Jason Rees (talk) 20:01, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Got it. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 20:11, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Infobox Hurricane season says that there were two strongest storms but doesnt cite any pressures, where as all the Storm infoboxes state pressures and suggests that H5 is the strongest of the season and not both H4 and 5.Jason Rees (talk) 21:15, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Got it. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 21:22, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment What's an Atlantic hurricane season? Is this about the hurricanes over the Atlantic Ocean? If so, state this fact before going on to tell us what the season was like in particular. Don't presume that your reader knows what you are talking about. They might have found this by clicking "random article". Amandajm (talk) 11:57, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Should be better now. Thanks! –Juliancolton | ^Talk 13:06, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 18:23, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Image review - File:1941 Atlantic hurricane season map.png - Please fix the source link. Thanks! Awadewit (talk) 01:23, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Couldn't find another source, so replaced. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 02:24, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please link the new image here, so I can check it out - thanks! Awadewit (talk) 15:58, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:1941 Atlantic hurricane season summary map.png –Juliancolton | ^Talk 16:15, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good. Image review complete. Awadewit (talk) 01:21, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

~~Copyediting needed~~. Looks basically solid but the prose could tighten up. Did a few changes (reducing overuse of commas, etc.) until reaching the second paragraph of hurricane 2. Five sentences in the passive voice within the same paragraph is definitely too many. The next paragraph after that starts out in the passive voice also. Please give the page another tweak for that sort of thing. Durova³⁶⁶ 02:39, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I've gone ahead and removed as many instances of passive voice as possible. Unfortunately, in many cases the lack of specific details prevents me from doing this. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 05:52, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Thanks. Looks good otherwise (well referenced, comprehensive, etc.). Durova³⁶⁹ 18:01, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support- Very well written and comprehensive article. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 17:57, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ping. Just a reminder: could you please add alt text to that lead image? Please use the |Track alt= parameter of {{Infobox hurricane season}}. Thanks. Eubulides (talk) 02:55, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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