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Questions about Singapore articles

Hi Justanothersgwikieditor, I had a few questions about some of the infoboxes on several articles about Singapore.

First, I feel like it would be more appropriate to use a former subdivision infobox on the article Singapore in Malaysia. It looked like that was the case for a while before it was changed to the current template. I would like to know what you think of this issue and if you would approve of me making that change since you've edited the article before.

I also noticed that File:State Crest of Singapore.png once was used as the coat of arms image for the articles Singapore, Colony of Singapore, and Coat of arms of Singapore but has since been replaced with an unofficial depiction of the arms on Commons. I was wondering if you think that the file hosted on Wikipedia should be put back on those articles for the coat of arms image?

Thank you for your time. Colohisto (talk) 18:00, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

@Colohisto I am unaware of the history of the infobox and generally leave it to those who are familiar with such matters. Perhaps asking over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Singapore will net you better results and discussion. Pinging @Robertsky as he will be interested. ~ JASWE (talk) 02:01, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

@Colohisto, not certain about the infobox changes. There was a brief edit war/socking activity in 2020 that lead to the current usage. Either take it up at WikiProject or in the article talk page itself. As for the usage of coat of arms, see WP:NFCC. The usage of the official coats of arms is limited on here due to fair use policies. – robertsky (talk) 02:24, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

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INSEAD history

Hi, I saw that you just reverted my contents on history of INSEAD. Given that I spent sometimes adding sources to my version, do you bother to explain why such reversion happen? "Revert to last good version" is a bit condescending, don't you think? 113.185.76.81 (talk) 07:12, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Dear IP editor, I added the link WP:COATRACKING beside the revert to last good version in the edit summary. Note that I have also reverted the other IP editor's edits are they are fundamentally not as good in the revert. It is rather common on Wikipedia to have edit summary "Reverted to last good version" when there are a lot of problematic edits and it is easier to start from a version that looks okay. Your version has half the history section reads like the biography of Georges Doriot which is coatracking and also a lot of primary sources from INSEAD website, please read WP:PRIMARYSOURCES as well.

I hope this long explanation helps with understanding why I reverted it to the last good version. I understand that you have spent time editing the article and I have come along just to revert it but I hope you can understand how editing Wikipedia works. Also, do you have any relationships with INSEAD? If yes, please read WP:COI as well. ~ JASWE (talk) 07:22, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Noted. Can you suggest improvements than just revert my work? That would be more constructive. I added a quite a few citations and not only sources from INSEAD website. Please advise on how to keep those citations.

I'm not affiliate with INSEAD. I got my MBA from a school in UK, but fond of the school's story and its mission. 113.185.79.140 (talk) 09:38, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Generally for history of a company, we only mentioned who is the founder and where possible, motivation for founding the company (example such as so and so wanted to give back to the community and started this education institue) but do not go into details such as his life to reach on why his has this motivation, a quick 2 to 3 sentences will be sufficient on motivation. This should address the coatrack issue.

I actually did a quick view on the sources you added, non-INSEAD sources are generally okay but for INSEAD sources, try to look for other secondary articles mentioning it. If there are no other secondary articles, consider why do you want to add this in? Is it really important to add this piece of information in? For factual figures and information where there is no need for INSEAD to disguise information and statistics, it is fine to quote the INSEAD sources. Sometimes we use "Accordingly to INSEAD, this and that happened" so readers know this might be some information which may or may not be so truthful and we let the readers decide.

Generally if you keep this in mind, it will help in writing. Alternatively, you can try improving some other articles first like finding references and sources for unsourced statements. Armed with the knowledge of how to make Google searches, checking in resources (such as libraries, newspapers archives), it will help you in getting the required secondary sources and references to improve INSEAD.

If you like to, do create a Wikipedia account. Generally IP editors edit a few articles and normally leave so the more regular editors usually tend to be more sparse in edit summaries and rendering help. So a Wikipedia account where other editors can reach you more easily and communicate, it will be helpful for everyone. For any more questions you have, you can also ask at WP:HELPDESK. ~ JASWE (talk) 10:05, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Ok. My revision as below, with some help of AI.

Georges Doriot, born in Paris in 1899, was a visionary French-American venture capitalist and a professor at Harvard Business School. Often regarded as the "father of venture capitalism," he founded the American Research and Development Corporation (ARDC) in 1946, one of the first publicly owned venture capital firms. Doriot’s career was also shaped by his service as a General in the US Army during World War II, where he led the Military Planning Division. His experience with the war fueled his determination to contribute to Europe’s recovery.

After the war, Doriot envisioned a business school that would unite leaders from different countries, including the formerly hostile, to rebuild economies and promote lasting peace. To ensure that, his vision for the school includes citizenship limits and language of instruction to be in either French, English or German to ensure cross-culture collaboration. The school still keeps the citizenship limit, currently at 12% but today all classes are taught in English, with students required to be proficient in three languages for graduation.

In 1955, he presented this idea to the Paris Chamber of Commerce, whose presidents, Jean Marcou and Philippe Dennis, not only funded the venture but also became first presidents of the school. Doriot’s vision gained international backing, including from U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower, who supported INSEAD's role in reconstructing Europe.

Doriot selected Claude Janssen and Olivier Giscard d'Estaing, his former students at Harvard, as his co-founders. Janssen, well-connected in European business circles, had substantial experience in finance, while Giscard d'Estaing, younger brother of the future French president, brought a strong political network, securing support from influential figures in France and abroad.

INSEAD was established in 1957 and initially operated out of the Château de Fontainebleau, before relocating to its current Europe Campus in 1967. The first MBA class began on September 12, 1959, with 57 students.

INSEAD expanded globally with the establishment of its Asia Campus in Singapore, inaugurated in 2000 by then Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew. With this, the school adopted the official branding "INSEAD" and the tagline "Business School for the World," replacing its original name, the European Institute of Business Administration, signaling a more global mission.

In 2012, INSEAD became a founding member of the Sorbonne University Alliance, moving toward a merger with leading specialist institutions to create a top-tier multidisciplinary university. 113.185.78.4 (talk) 10:55, 21 August 2024 (UTC)