Wtwikiauth

February 2009

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Ok, got it. I see what you meant about the additional page for WealthTrust which is what I wanted. I have updated that page now.

Now I understand that one cannot rename an article to a name which is already in use. However, I don't understand why I don't have a "move" tab.

--Wtwikiauth (talk) 05:14, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Wealthtrust

What is your intention with the Wealthtrust page? do you need assistance? I so you may leave a response here or reply on my discussion page. -- Tcncv (talk) 04:19, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

The recent edit you made to the page Wealthtrust constitutes vandalism, and has been reverted. Please do not continue to make unconstructive edits to pages; use the sandbox for testing. Thank you. Alansohn (talk) 04:25, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

I disagree. WealthTrust appears to be a separate entity now. -- Tcncv (talk) 04:32, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

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Renaming the Wealthtrust article

To rename the article, bring up the article (click here) and look at the top of the screen and look for a "Move" tab. Click on it and it should prompt you for a new name. Assuming the new name is not already in use, the article will be renamed, and the old name will become a redirect to the new one. If the new name is already in use, we need to take a different approach. Let me know how it goes. I am "watching" this page, so you can respond here. (Add a leading ":" to indent your response and finish your comments with a signature by typing ~~~~. -- Tcncv (talk) 04:48, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Based on Wikipedia article naming conventions for companies here, the LLC should be left off the article name. That leaves WealthTrust. However, that name is already in use, so you cannot simply rename this article to replace it. However, since that page is also a simple redirect to Morgan Keegan it should be OK to override its contents. Normally the correct course of action would be to ask an administrator (which I am not) to delete the redirect which would then allow you to move this page to the new name. Is that what you would like to do? -- Tcncv (talk) 05:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

I just checked, and it appears that the "page move" function is disabled for new users for the first few days (I think 4). But if you confirm the name you prefer, I'll do the rename for you. -- Tcncv (talk) 05:18, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

OK. I see you found the "other" way to move the article. Now a few suggestions. Since you are apparently an employee with WealthTrust you have an inherent conflict of interest. That doesn't mean you cannot contribute, but I'd suggest you be careful to limit your edits to factual information and leave any marketing and promotional sounding information out. I'd also suggest that you add a link to an article on the web covering the sale of WealthTrust by Morgan Keegan, so anyone questioning the fact that you replaced the redirect will see that you have a valid reason. You can also add a link to your company's web site. If your company has received coverage by the general media or better yet by business oriented publications, and that coverage is accessible on theweb, I'd suggest adding that also to demonstrate that your company has sufficient WP:notability for inclusion in Wikipedia. New articles are often under a high level of scrutiny, and those that do not demonstrate notability early on are often deleted with little notice.

Don't worry too much about format right now, others can help with that. For example, if you enter web references as bare http: addressed, I or someone else can reformat it to a more acceptable link.

I just noticed that someone is questioning the notability. I'll restore so you can have a change to improve on the article. -- Tcncv (talk) 05:37, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

WealthTrust

I have restored the WealthTrust title back to a link to Morgan Keegan. The article that you had placed there fails to demonstrate that WealthTrust is a notable organization. Further, prior consensus from an AfD was to redirect the title to Morgan Keegan. In the absence of an independent source stating the company was spun off, it should remain a redirect. —C.Fred (talk) 05:27, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm undoing that for now. These are two separate companies now, so the previous AFD result is no longer applicable. -- Tcncv (talk) 05:39, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Are you still there?

Hello again. Although you started the WealthTrust article several days ago, the article is still lacking significant content and references that demonstrates that the company satisfies Wikipedia's notability guidelines for organizations and companies. In short, "a company ... is notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in secondary sources. Such sources must be reliable, and independent of the subject." Please take a look at the guidelines. Routine coverage of ordinary business activities and press releases will likely not qualify. What is needed is coverage that shows unique qualifies of the business that make it stand out from the field of other businesses.

The article also needs more content, which should be factual and verifiable. It should not have a marketing tone nor should it be information cut & pasted from the company web site (which is copyrighted). If have information and references, but are unsure how to present it, feel fee to add a note to my talk page.

If the article is not updated soon, it will likely be nominated for deletion. -- Tcncv (talk) 02:04, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of WealthTrust

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article WealthTrust, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

This is essentially a new page replacing the prior redirect. It has little content and no evidence of notability. Content consists solely of the opening paragraph from the company's web site (http://wealthtrust.com/). Press coverage appears to consist only of routine business activity and transactions.

An earlier PROD resulted in a redirect to Morgan Keegan & Company, but WealthTrust is no longer affiliated with that company, so restoring the earlier redirect is not advisable.

Related page: If this page is deleted, the Weathtrust redirect page should also be deleted. (Does this need to be a separate PROD?)

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. -- Tcncv (talk) 16:17, 6 March 2009 (UTC)