Ulysse Verjus-Tonnelé

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Je vois que vous semblez être francophone, donc je vous pose la question directement: d'ou proviennent les informations rajoutées ici? Cela me semble, comment dire, particulièrement intriguant (on pourrait aussi dire que c'est quelque peu contradictoire). Avez-vous accès au livre de Marissen ou s'agit-il d'informations trouvées dans un autre ouvrage? Merci, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 04:10, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

@RandomCanadian: Bonjour ! De quel passage parlez-vous exactement ? Celui-ci : "However, this is debatable, as the turba chorus during which the Jews call for the crucifixion of Jesus is written in a frenzied rhythm in G minor, with a dramatic and distinguishable descending minor second repeated throughout the chorus in different voices and at different pitches. However, one would expect no less for such a terrible moment in the Gospel, even if the turba was sung by the Romans or a mob, and when the Jews sing the “We have a law, and by our law he ought to die” chorus, the part sounds almost dignified, with no particular use of dissonances or any other dramatic effect, on top of being a rather light-hearted fugue. But these qualities can themselves be interpreted differently: either as a way to downplay the vilification of the Jews in John’s Gospel, or one to make the Jews appear heartless by having them seem happy when asking for Jesus to die." ? If so, ce passage n'est pas de Marissen, c'est juste de l'information tirée de la partition, et des déductions personnelles mixées avec les analyses que j'ai lues sur le sujet. Je ne serai pas fâché si vous affirmez que le ton de l'analyse n'est pas assez encyclopédique. Let me know what you think. Ulysse Verjus-Tonnelé (talk) 16:21, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Ce n'est pas tant un problème de ton ou de style que c'en est un de sources: en principe, il n'est en général pas adéquat de publier ses propres déductions sur Wikipédia, surtout lorsque ceci s'apparente à des travaux inédits (voir Wikipedia:No original research pour la version anglaise) - sauf pour les détails les plus banals (tonalité, ...) on s'abstient et on préfère les travaux académiques sur le sujet (par exemple, des ouvrages comme les biographies de Bach publiées par Wolff, Gardiner, Cantagrel, et al.; ou encore des articles paru dans des journaux savants); sinon on n'en finirait plus, et vu que ce n'est pas tout le monde qui est expert en analyse musicale, on est mieux de s'en tenir directement aux sources reconnues. Merci, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 22:10, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@RandomCanadian: Oui je suis d'accord, et c'est pour ça que mon "analyse" reste plutôt factuelle : rien n'est particulièrement controverse ou audacieux, et une simple écoute du passage suffirait en convaincre. En revanche, vu que la limite entre banalité/évidence et point de vue personnelle est floue, je ne rouspèterai pas si vous trouvez que ce paragraphe est trop subjectif :) Ulysse Verjus-Tonnelé (talk) 20:37, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

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There are very specific rules about how things are supposed to be categorized on Wikipedia — namely, things go only in the most specific appropriate categories, and don't get replicated up the tree. For instance, Category:Piano competitions is already a subcategory of Category:Piano, so a page doesn't need to be filed in both of those categories at the same time as each other — and Category:Music in Glasgow is already a subcategory of Category:Glasgow, which in turn is already a subcategory of Category:Scotland, so a thing related to the music scene in Glasgow doesn't need to be in all three of those categories at the same time. It goes only in the most specific appropriate categories, not in those categories and their parents at the same time. Bearcat (talk) 16:41, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Ah I see okay thank you so much! Ulysse Verjus-Tonnelé (talk) 15:52, 6 March 2024 (UTC)