Type Five

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D. Bruce McMahan

I suggest that you join the discussion of this article at the Articles for Deletion page and stop editing the article. Your deletions are suspected to be vandalism or biased. Repeated actions can cause you to be banned from Wikipedia.

--Kevin Murray 22:48, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Type Five, when you don't log in all we see at the edit summary is the IP address. Are you one in the same with user:12.22.101.162?

I think that you are walking a fine line here between vandalism and editing when you continue to remove well documented text without achieving consensus with your fellow editors. Your motivations are also questionable since you are what is known as a "single purpose editor". As I have suggested before, a preferred method of achieving NPOV is to offer a balance. If you have verifiable information that contradicts the current version it should be included, or used as a justification for removal of the current information. Continued blanking just won't work, and only weakens your case.

I'm not completely satisfied with the article since the bad news dominates. I'd prefer to see more positive information, and I have been pretty aggressive in keeping the NPOV by removing inflamatory edits from the "other side", and keeping the bad news out of the introductory paragraph.

Let's try to work together.

Sincerely,

Kevin --Kevin Murray 16:19, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

However you feel best. I think that the defenders of the article have calmed down. I'm the one taking the flack lateley. why don't you focus your talents on some other subjects and get involved in the fun and reward of our project. Good luck. --Kevin Murray 23:25, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi.

Thanks for your support at McM. Please make comments there, so that we cab show consensus without me copying your comment. I get automatic notification whenever that page is changed or comments are made. Thanks. Kevin --Kevin Murray 21:17, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I tend to agree that the source of that info. on the abalone island is questionable. I really like the story, as I see it as a gutsy move for a young man. If you remove it I won't object. --Kevin Murray 23:26, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Getting Started

I just started reading about subjects of interest. I began editing by fixing obvious grammatic errors, and then fixing poor writing. Then I got bold and added some articles to expand a few topics. In the old days you could jsut throw out a title and a sentence or two and watch it grow and blossom. But WP has become very sensitive to junk, so even valuable stubs are ground up in the battle against spam etc. I have not started an article in a while, but would suggest developing it on you word processor and then pasting it to WP, with a note in the talk page that you are adding references ASAP. Let me know if you need help with the reference formats. No one should delete your article for poor reference style, so just dump your sources in a bibliography and add the notes later.

Good Luck!

Kevin --Kevin Murray 23:54, 15 February 2007 (UTC)