User talk:TooTallSid/Dosho Port

Notability

Dosho Port is notable for several reasons

• In Zen, lineage is very important. The Zen concept of [[[dharma transmission]]]] is the final, official certification by a Zen teacher that a Zen student is 100% able to continue the teacher's instruction. Lineage is like getting an Eagle scout in the B.S.A. - one has to jump through many hoops and demonstrate competence. Dosho can trace his lineage back to the historical Buddha. More importantly, he can trace his lineage back to some of the more important Zen masters in the U.S.
• Dosho is mature (in his 60's). He has worked with many people in the current Zen tradition.
• Dosho has innovated in developing a way to support Zen students who do not have easy access to a teachers. Currently 30 students pay $1,200 year to work with him.
• Dosho (and his wife, Tetsugan Zummach) are the new priests at the Nebraska Zen Center, one of the oldest Zen centers in the U.S. (40 years)
• Dosho is part of the "new age" in American Zen that combines the teachings of the two main schools of Zen, Soto and Rinzai. This is an exciting approach to Zen that is strongest in the U.S.
• Dosho has demonstrated the value of his Zen practice in his work with violent youth in the Minneapolis public school system.

TooTallSid (talk) 22:16, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Rejection

Reviewed and rejected by User:Seraphim System.

Reviewed suggested Wikipedia links. Tuned up and add references

Asked for help on the AFC help page. Received a response from User:Worldbruce https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/Archives/2017_June_3#17:15:48.2C_3_June_2017_review_of_submission_by_TooTallSid TooTallSid (talk) 14:21, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Posted request on User:Seraphim System talk pagehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Seraphim_System#15:19:27.2C_15_June_2017_review_of_submission_by_TooTallSid TooTallSid (talk) 14:21, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

If you post on my talk because you want me to review it, a link to the draft would be helpful in the future. Once resubmitted it may be reviewed by any of the editors at AfC. I do not see many changes in the sources since the first review, and I generally agree with Worldbruce that some of the references are not in-depth enough to establish notability, and that others we not consider WP:RS at all, like Monkey Mind—it does not seem you have updated the draft to reflect the comments you have received, and I still do not think there is enough here to establish notability. Seraphim System ^(talk) 14:40, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Undeletion

@TooTallSid: I found this draft because I work with categories and, when categories are moved, I check pages that are currently linked to the old name. If this leads me to a user page that has a chance of becoming an article, I update it.

I haven’t looked into the quality of the citations, but I see that others have, so I retrieved a copy of the old talk page above. If you believe that sources can be found which meet Wikipedia:Notability (people) then I would be happy to retrieve the whole of the original draft page history and move it here. – Fayenatic London 08:39, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

@Fayenatic london: Thank you for taking the time to respond to me. I reread the Notability page. I don't think I can meet the citation requirements. American Zen Bhuddism is too small a community to achieve this level of notability. I noted awhile back that chemistry has the same problem and started a separate Web site for CVs. Likewise, there are a number of Web sites devoted to American Zen. I am not enough of an devotee to contribute to them. The previous priest at the Nebraska Zen Center does have a page but that was long before the notability guidelines were adopted. Again, thanks for you time. TooTallSid (talk) 21:27, 15 May 2021 (UTC)