User talk:Springeragh/Archive 4

Wikipedia:Esperanza/User Page Award

Springeragh, thanks for signing up for the Esperanza User Page Contest. The judges have received the fifteen entries, and are ready to start judging. The judges will take a week to complete the judging process, and they will contact all the participants when the judging is done.

Please drop by the contest page for contest updates and questions. Take care, and good luck! May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 15:12, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the inspiration

When I couldn't believe I fell for that, I wondered how many other people would fall for it. Also, I wanted to see what other users would say about Japanese people (in the same sense that User:Nathan said "Damn those evil Irish, always playin' jokes"). --Sakura Avalon 19:54, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

>:D I myself got the idea from Childzy's page. —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-¢|ε|Ŀ|T|♪-) 20:38, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

ED

There is a campaign of attaching ED links to user talk pages in the past month. This is the second one I reverted in the past 24 hours. The targets of the articles know that they exist, the appropriate action is to remove the attack, it can still be located in the history (hence the notice of removal). Btw, I see you doing good things, keep up the good work :). NoSeptember 20:34, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't understand… —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-¢|ε|Ŀ|T|♪-) 20:36, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Read Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/MONGO and the related AfDs and RfCs listed there. There has been significant trolling to promote ED on WP. We should not encourage it in any way. NoSeptember 20:40, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Now I see. Sorry for the slow brain. :) —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-¢|ε|Ŀ|T|♪-) 20:41, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Spellign an puncuation sticler

You caught me "loosing"... congrats! I wondered how long it would take somebody to find that.

File:Eagle closeup.jpg

Congratulations on spotting my little test... I hereby award you the Eagle Eye of the Stickler!
—Editor at Large

I love doing that. :D Even though I forget to proof-read my typing and since I type fast sometimes I make…un-noticed mistakes. ;) —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-¢|ε|Ŀ|T|♪-) 14:40, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Edits and two stars

Thank you, Cliff, for that lovely and totally unexpected message! It really brightened up my day. Thanks again for the kind words and shinies. :D Cheers, Sango123 21:02, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

It's my pleasure! :) —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-¢|ε|Ŀ|T|♪-) 22:31, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Re nation state

Oh yeah, definitely. But, ummmm, wouldn't that cause a wiki civil war? -- Szvest 15:02, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

How would it do that? —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-¢|ε|Ŀ|T|♪-) 15:09, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

In order to get independence, the US had to face a revolutionary war. -- Szvest 15:13, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but (for example) the United Kingdom didn't. (Before then it was England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland—all different countries.) —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-¢|ε|Ŀ|T|♪-) 15:23, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Not really true! Northern Ireland got its Ulster problem and its Irish Republican Army. Scotland got their William Wallace (the name Wallace means "Welsh" indeed). I've been to Stirling and knew how people percieve their history there. Szvest 18:11, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

WikiLove!

Here's... um... something for you! Somethings somehow promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving something friendly to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Make your own message to spread WikiLove to others using Template:smile! Happy editing! --TBCTaLk?!? 05:14, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Couldn't think of any clever puns or words that rhyme with "eragh". Anyhow, keep up the good work, you've contributed a lot to Wikipedia. (another ackward attempt at comedy by TBCTaLk?!?)

Signature help.

Hello Springeragh. I've been tring to "fix" my signature so I can have a green S (eSperanza) , lose the sig image and have a few spare spaces for extra links, unfortunately - I've met a few snags. I was wondering if you could help me as it seems that you have had sucess.

This is the Ideal signature:

• Dfrg.msc ^{1 . 2 . 3}

With raw signature ticked I get:

• Invalid raw signature; check HTML tags.
• And: Dfrg.msc ^{1 . 2 . 3} 10:28, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Without raw signature ticked I get:

• [[User:Dfrg.msc|Dfrg.msc [[Image:DFRG. MSC.jpg|10px|User talk:Dfrg.msc|]]]] 10:32, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, User: Dfrg.msc

Oh, I may ask a few other people, as I'm getting desperate. Dfrg.msc User talk:Dfrg.msc 00:08, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Unless you are away, (which you are), so, hmmmmm..... next editor! Dfrg.msc User talk:Dfrg.msc 11:27, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

I hope you're OK

Hi there, I hope you're OK and that you can come back to Wikipedia soon. But please, take all the time you need to cope with whatever is troubling you. --Tachikoma 00:30, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm fine, in fact, just returned from Arizona where it is hot! All the events off-Wiki are solved, I am happy to say, but I haven't gone everywhere on-Wiki that I usually go, so we'll wait for that. ;)

I read on the Coffee Lounge that you are feeling melancholy. :.( But like you said to me, please take some time, breathe deep, and face the world as you need to once again. I myself am feeling rather bouncy, so perhaps it can become contagious! —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-¢|ε|Ŀ|T|♪-) 02:08, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi, welcome back, glad to hear that you are feeling better. As for me, maybe in the future, I'll tell you about it, but not now. Please don't be offended.

Arizona is a beautiful state. I hope you were able to see the Grand Canyon. Petrified Forest National Park is nice too.

Incidentally, how did you have your message on both of our talk pages? Did you simply copy and paste, or is there some trick to it? Again, nice to see you back. --Tachikoma 03:04, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

That's fine with me. :) But I'm getting dragged down again and stress is going up (only on-Wiki, thank God), so I will need to continue my Wikibreak.

Arizona is pretty, in its own way. I'm just used to my place where it is green almost year-round…which you can't say for the rest of California!

I did do copy+paste. No robot work there. ;) —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-¢|ε|Ŀ|T|♪-) 05:02, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I'll tell you this much, that I'm currently a bit stressed due to health concerns, and I'll leave it at that.

I'm used to Northern California, where (depending on where exactly you are at the time) summers are green or yellow/brown, and winters are green and rainy, or snowy if you're in the Sierras.

I do hope that my editor review of you hasn't contributed to your stress, and that you feel better soon. --Tachikoma 15:32, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Stressed

Hi Spring, sorry to see that you're still stressed. Let's hope that this big smiley face can help out a bit:

:)

That do any good? I hope that all your stress floats away soon, and that you feel in a better mood soon as well. And, of course, talk to me whenever you need to.

Yours, Thε Halo ^Θ 11:50, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, dude! :P Seriously, thank you very much; I even got this in the morning, so when the day goes by, I can look back at it. —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-¢|ε|Ŀ|T|♪-) 14:11, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Glad you liked it so much. I remembered when I saw your userpage just now to say that i really like your Esperanza flag. Kind of reminds me of this this. I still prefer yours though ;) Thε Halo ^Θ 14:59, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

sig suggestion

Hi there, I was thinking that if you do choose to change your signature, you might first eliminate everything that you have within the parentheses. You can put the green Esperanza E (or whatever you prefer) within the "Springeragh" proper. Unfortunately doing just these steps will mean that you won't have the links to your talk page, Phaedriel's soundtrack page, etc. I'm really not the one to ask as to how you would insert those links within "Springeragh". If you do pursue an RfA in the future, you should probably make these changes at least a few months before your candidacy — doing so immediately before an RfA can (and has) been perceived as a cynical tactic to improve one's chances.

Above all, I would encourage you to get more involved with editing within the Wikipedia mainspace, which is much more important than changing your signature.

I really appreciate being added to your list of friends despite all I've said. Thank you. --Tachikoma 19:27, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Esperanza/User Page Award

Greetings, Springeragh. The judges would like to announce that the winner for the Esperanza User Page Contest has been chosen. Congratulations to Misza13 for winning the contest. The winning entry can be found here.

If you'd like to participate in the contest again, check by the contest page in a few days and sign up. See you around. May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 09:35, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

on why I don't want to become an admin

Hi there, thanks for your message. My decision has nothing to all to do with our discussion. It's really a result of seeing how people in that role get overwhelmed by the feeling that they need to fix everything that's wrong with Wikipedia — vandalism, revert wars, etc. — and furthermore watching how some admins end up conflicting with other admins. Take a look at WP:AN and WP:ANI sometime. I have enough going on in my life that I don't need the added stress, especially when it's something I'm not even getting paid for.

For what it's worth, I do think that I would make a fair-minded and civil admin, but I think I would much prefer being an ordinary user. --Tachikoma 15:25, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Let me add that I am not trying to discourage you from pursuing a sysop position, but just explaining my own preferences. --Tachikoma 20:32, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

I was pretty sure that's what you meant. Thanks for the clarificatin. :) And for the heck: you're a great user, even if you aren't a sysop. —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-¢|ε|Ŀ|T|♫-) 00:12, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Aww, thank you. You're a great user too, and I'm sure that one day, you'll make a great admin! :) --Tachikoma 02:16, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Police state

Thanks. I'm in a bit of a state already as it is :) Will ^{(Glaciers melting in the dead of night)} 03:55, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

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== RE. Question ==

Do you have to be an administrator to put {{Blatantvandal-n}} on talk pages? I decided to be bold and do it here, but I was wondering if I ^should/_shouldn't have done it. (Can you reply on my talk page as well as here?) —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-¢|ε|Ŀ|T|♫-) 03:49, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

No that is fine, really the only templates I can think of that you shouldn't use if you are not an admin are the block templates, and the unblock templates. KOS | talk 11:59, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

on you, Sceptre, and anons

Hi there, I thought you should be aware that I got involved in a dispute regarding yourself, Sceptre, 206.124.31.24, and 70.5.51.142. This came about when I was looking at the Recent changes and saw an anonymous edit to Sceptre's talk page. I warned the anon, and then the anon pointed out a comment that Sceptre had made about 206.124.31.24 about 9/11 being the person's anniversary.

I thought that was a pretty offensive thing to say, and so I left a warning on Sceptre's page as well. Since then I have gone back through the respective people's contributions and found that your userpage had been the target of a sockpuppet claim.

I didn't investigate fully, but I know that the sockpuppet accusation is unjustified. The anon IP who placed it, 206.124.31.24, has since been blocked, and I believe that the same person contacted me through the IP 70.5.51.142.

At this point, I hope that the matter can just be put to rest, because I think it's disruptive to bring it up again in further discussions. The anonymous user appears to consider the matter closed. I don't know yet what Sceptre thinks, but I hope he agrees. I simply thought that since you were an involved party, you should know what has transpired in your absence, and hopefully you will consider this resolved as well. Thank you. --Tachikoma 20:43, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

I do somewhat disagree, but yes, I will lay it to the side. —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-¢|ε|Ŀ|T|♫-) 21:23, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

(crossposted from Will's talk page) OK, after rereading (the relevant talk page), I can see what you mean. I hope you understand that your choice of words was ambiguous and can be taken very differently from what you had intended. The anonymous user took a certain way, and I initially interpreted it in the same manner. Please be more careful in your choice of words in the future. Please also understand that I'm personally taking the 9/11 anniversary a bit hard, so that may also be affecting my judgement.

I'm sorry for doubting you and causing you more stress. As a side note, this is precisely why I don't want to become an administrator — too much stress, too much risk of making a mistake. I really don't like digging through people's contribution history and page histories trying to figure out who did what and who said what and who if anyone is in the wrong. Again, I'm sorry. --Tachikoma 21:35, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

No stress taken. :) —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-¢|ε|Ŀ|T|♫-) 21:38, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

The message was meant for Will, but copied onto your talk page. I'm still glad, though, that you're not stressed about it. I sure am. --Tachikoma 21:41, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

crossposted my message from User talk:70.5.122.118

(crossposted Tachikoma's message from User talk:70.5.122.118) Hello, this situation has been brought about by bad choices of words coupled with misunderstandings on all sides. I've gone through the page history of Springeragh's user page, and as far as I can determine, you seem to have initiated this dispute with this edit. If that is indeed true, then perhaps you should apologise to Springeragh and Sceptre. I will ask Sceptre to tell you personally that he was not calling you a terrorist.

I've tried to be fair and objective to all parties involved, and I've tried to spare everyone any sense of hurt. I'm sorry I ever got involved, and I don't want to do anymore on this matter beyond this message.

This message will be crossposted to both Springeragh's and Sceptre's talk pages. end quote

Hi there, as I told Will, I'm urging the anon user to apologise to you and to him, and in turn, I'm urging Will to tell the anon user personally that he was not calling him a terrorist. As I told both Sceptre and the anon user, I'm sorry I ever got involved, and I don't want to do anymore on this matter. --Tachikoma 00:07, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

(To be posted to User talks Springeragh, Sceptre, 70.5.122.118, and Tachikoma) It's my turn first. I personally don't believe the first warning was a mistake, but everything else may very well have been. I apologise for any stress, high blood pressure, insomnia, anxiety or any other thing I have caused, directly or indirectly. While the rest of us may have made our share [of mistakes], I will give you all the benefit of the doubt from here on out. :) —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-¢|ε|Ŀ|T|♫-) 02:39, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

(To be posted to User talks Springeragh, Sceptre, 70.5.122.118, and Tachikoma—I am 70.5.122.118—see below about that.)

I'm sorry that I jumped to the conclusion that $ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ was a sockpuppet of Sceptre. I did honestly believe this to be true, at the time I made the claim. I am ready to accept that $ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ is simply a friend of Sceptre, and was eager to come to his aid when I responded hastily to what I perceived as a personal attack by Sceptre, and I acted out of haste to strike back. It appears, further, that the post by Sceptre, which I interpreted as a personal attack, must have been in response to a post or posts I made which were clearly offensive, or Sceptre would not have responded as he did. I apologize for any and all harm I have thus caused the community, and especially each of those noted, through this and resulting actions. I do intend to be more courteous and unassuming in regard to the actions of Wikipedia Admins in the future, and particularly those involved in this exchange. I have posted a note in regard to part of the confusion in the talk page for the article on sock puppetry.

This may come from an address other than 70.5.122.118 or 206.124.31.24, which I have no control over, as the latter is blocked and the former is not necessarily in my control. I would like to note as an anonymous editor that my experience in deliberately posting anonymously, for reasons which I consider valid, is that admins are quick to assume the intentions of anonymous posters are vandalism, and in my case, the posts I originally felt attacked for were legitimate Wikipedia entries. During the entire time, I could have actually committed what I feel is actual sock puppetry (see the talk entry) but have refrained, and only acted in response to what I felt was hostile, irrational and hasty blocking. I have used several IP addresses for my entries, as I am now using a service for which I have no control over the IP address used each time I log in, and I have used this as a feature to defend my use of IP address 206.124.31.24, which is also transient, but which changes less frequently. I do not/have not used this for the purpose of deception. 70.5.53.83 03:36, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: Hey Dude

Sure go ahead, I can't think of a better Idea

(The Bread 04:16, 12 September 2006 (UTC))

RE: Guess what?

Thanks man, but remember, we've also got to wait until Phaedriel comes back, as she's also co-noming. But that should be alright, it'll just give me time to get even more edits under my belt ;) Thε Halo ^Θ 09:30, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

You're not going to have time to get to 4000 :P remember Murphy's Law is still in effect! >:D —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-¢|ε|Ŀ|T|♫-) 15:07, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

I certainly hope I don't get to 4000; that would mean Phaedriel would have been gone for a very, very long time :( Thε Halo ^Θ 16:02, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm back

Hi there, I cut short my wikibreak, because work-related stress improved, and Wikipedia is just addicting. I don't want to bring up what happened again, except to say that I'm sorry I ever got involved and I'm sorry for any pain I might have caused. Instead of calming everyone's nerves, I just made things worse. I changed the quote on my user page to reflect that feeling of having utterly failed.

Based on this experience, I don't think I'll try to mediate between Wikipedia users again. It also reaffirms my decision not to become an admin.

I'm not copying this message on Sceptre's and the anon's talk pages, because I get the feeling that I wouldn't be welcome, for lack of a better term. --Tachikoma 11:04, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't believe it would have turned out as well without you, to tell the truth. You came in at just the right time, and left at just the right time. Even if you didn't like it, you still did a fine job. —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-¢|ε|Ŀ|T|♫-) 15:00, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

NOTE: The above comment originally included the sentence "Who knows, without you we might still all be acting like Muslims." Whilst I originally meant it in humourous reference to a User talk:206.124.31.24 , I realise now that it was a mistake to say that, and I deeply apologise for it. —  $PЯINGεrαgђ  03:27, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm glad that at least you are pleased with how things worked out.

I do however have to say that comments like "Who knows, without you we might still be acting like Muslims" sound pretty racist. I'm not going to put an NPA warning on your page, but broad and offensive comments like this aren't good for an RfA nomination. I suggest you refrain from comments like this in the future. --Tachikoma 17:26, 13 September 2006 (UTC), amended 17:57, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Okay, let's get going on my RfA. If you would please update the dates, I will accept your nom, we can go live with it, and then leave it to the gods ;) Thank you, btw, for such a great nomination. I was really touched by your words.

Although I'll be watching out, if you wouldn't mind putting a note on my talkpage just to say that the RfA is ready, that would be very kind of you.

Thank you so much Spring, now let's keep our fingers crossed! :) Thε Halo ^Θ 14:45, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Actually, forget the above. There's no reason why, after Snopake has added her nomination, I can not update the time and add it to WP:RfA. Still, at least you know that I'm going live today before anyone else ;) Thε Halo ^Θ 15:13, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Update the times…? —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-¢|ε|Ŀ|T|♫-) 15:50, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

You began the page on the 12th, so the end time was on the 19th. However, it is now the 15th, so the end time would be on the 22nd, you see? Update the closing times. Anyway, you may now vote on my RfA :) Thε Halo ^Θ 15:55, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

I got it now. And here's to your success! —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-¢|ε|Ŀ|T|♫-) 15:57, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

I certainly do drink, so thanks ;) Maybe it'll help with my nerves! Thε Halo ^Θ 16:02, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Cool Cat/In many languages...

Thank you for the German translation --Cat out 14:56, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome :) even though I don't remember doing that. —  $PЯINGεrαgђ  18:19, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:BiancoSean.jpg

An image that you uploaded or altered, Image:BiancoSean.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images because its copyright status is disputed. If the image's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. Please go to its page for more information if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. —Bkell (talk) 17:41, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

OK. So what should I do to keep it? (Thank you by the way for finding it; I lost it after I uploaded it for the Sean Bianco article.) If it has "All rights reserved" then can it be uploaded in the first place? —  $PЯINGεrαgђ  18:17, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Three categories of images are allowed on Wikipedia: images in the public domain (to which no one can claim copyright, usually because the image is very old), images released under a free license (such as the GFDL or certain Creative Commons licenses), and images used under a claim of fair use.

Now, Image:BiancoSean.jpg is certainly not old enough to have fallen into the public domain, and it's unlikely that the copyright holder has voluntarily placed the image into the public domain, so this image doesn't fall into the first category. Most images in the "real world" are not licensed under what are considered free licenses, so unless you can find an explicit statement that the image has been released under such a license, we cannot assume it is. Therefore, in all likelihood, the only way this image can be used on Wikipedia is if it satisfies all ten criteria of the Wikipedia fair-use policy. In particular, point 1 requires that no free equivalent is available or could be created; for people who are still alive, I think it is very possible that a free equivalent image could be obtained (by asking the person to submit a photo under a free license). Hence, in my opinion, the use of this image on Wikipedia probably doesn't qualify for fair use, so unless we can get the copyright holder to release the image freely (see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission) we cannot use this image on Wikipedia.

I think that "fair use" is really abused on Wikipedia. Many images here have simply been taken from some Web page and used indiscriminately in Wikipedia articles with no regards for the rights of the copyright holder, and people seem to think that "fair use" allows them to do this. We should try to avoid fair use unless it is absolutely necessary. —Bkell (talk) 19:24, 16 September 2006 (UTC)